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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Because every American cannot afford the jacked up prices that capitalist insurance companies charge for health care coverage. Unless your employee offers coverage you are looking at $400+ a month for basic health care coverage.
    I cannot afford the jacked up prices that capitalist real estate developers are charging to buy a 3BR condo on the Upper East Side. Unless the developer offers me a deal, I am looking at $9,000+ a month for a mortgage.

    I don't agree with the government run health care plan but to say that health care is readily available and people simply choose not to get it is quite disingenuous.
    It is an indisputable fact that there are tens of millions of "uninsured" who have insurance available and simply choose not to get it.

    I don't think a single election in Mass equates to everyone is against the left. You forget that there is still a overall % approval for the program.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Well if you turn the poll upside down it shows massive support
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who truly lives in actual poverty in this country compared to the rest of the world our poor are rich by other standards.


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    Millions of people. Are you saying that sleeping on the cold street in rags and eating out of a dumpster isn't really that bad? I suggest you try it for a week. Maybe you can walk down the street and tell the family living in the alley they should be happy that they don't live in Africa or China. I'm sure that will make them feel better.

    Anyway, I am for supporting those people struggling to make a life but cannot afford the added cost of basic health care. It is in the countries long term benefit to make sure these workers are healthy, working, and increasing their economic status.

    This country benefits from less poverty, not more.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    This country benefits from less poverty, not more.
    Then you should be supporting job creation instead of handouts.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I cannot afford the jacked up prices that capitalist real estate developers are charging to buy a 3BR condo on the Upper East Side. Unless the developer offers me a deal, I am looking at $9,000+ a month for a mortgage.
    You can afford a 3BR Condo in Jersey though.

    Having basic health care is not the same as living a chosen lifestyle. What would be the same is if you couldn't afford a house at all. You can move into government sponsored housing until you could afford better.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It is an indisputable fact that there are tens of millions of "uninsured" who have insurance available and simply choose not to get it.
    Then they choose not to get it. There are also millions of people want it and can't afford it. Help those that want help and let those that don't deal with the consequences.

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    http://www.pollster.com/HealthCarer.png
    50% is not equal to EVERYONE.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

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    Then you should be supporting job creation instead of handouts.
    And just hope those people never get sick until they can afford health insurance?

    I prefer job creation to come from the private sector, as I do with health care.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

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    50% is not equal to EVERYONE.
    And 40% does not equal majority.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    So people choose to live in poverty?
    You posted: "Hurray no healthcare for millions of americans".
    I responded with: "That's their choice. You got a problem with that?"

    It's understood that people who live in poverty qualify for medicaid, right? So, obviously, we're not talking about people who live in poverty...


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    You posted: "Hurray no healthcare for millions of americans".
    I responded with: "That's their choice. You got a problem with that?"

    It's understood that people who live in poverty qualify for medicaid, right? So, obviously, we're not talking about people who live in poverty...

    I didn't post "Hurray no healthcare for millions of americans"
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Millions of people. Are you saying that sleeping on the cold street in rags and eating out of a dumpster isn't really that bad? I suggest you try it for a week. Maybe you can walk down the street and tell the family living in the alley they should be happy that they don't live in Africa or China. I'm sure that will make them feel better.

    Anyway, I am for supporting those people struggling to make a life but cannot afford the added cost of basic health care. It is in the countries long term benefit to make sure these workers are healthy, working, and increasing their economic status.

    This country benefits from less poverty, not more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    *COUGH*Medicaid*COUGH*
    Emphasis added.

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