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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, those punitive taxes placed on oilfield companies and coal companies had no affect on employment?

    PBO saying, point blank, that he was going to put coal power plants out of business didn't have a negative impact? None??
    No, what it has done is opened-up a whole new field of energy jobs that have a more steady stream of income. You may or may not know, most oil rig workers are payed based on the price of oil, so when oil dips so do the checks of the workers. Alternative energy jobs bring in seady incomes, or the same amount every check. Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

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    Really? Is this what you believe? I might go along with tobacco, but not energy.
    Many of us on this side see it that way. I'm old enough to remember when americans made most of what we consumed. I remember when the north was an industrial powerhouse. Not so much anymore. The toxic combination of democratic party administrations from the counties to the statehouses working in collusion with the unions pretty much ended that.


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Many of us on this side see it that way. I'm old enough to remember when americans made most of what we consumed. I remember when the north was an industrial powerhouse. Not so much anymore. The toxic combination of democratic party administrations from the counties to the statehouses working in collusion with the unions pretty much ended that.


    What happened was globalization. That is it and all.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    This election is what happens when you become overconfident and rest on your laurels. You know like the republicans here today that are eating it up and becoming overconfident.

    That said congrats to the right. Everybody deserves a break sometime and you guys haven't had a break in a while. I just hope he doesn't let you down. He sure doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the room.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs.
    Duh!

    There's no drilling going on because the crackpot environmentalists are in charge now.

    The oil rig men have to get work somewhere.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    No, what it has done is opened-up a whole new field of energy jobs that have a more steady stream of income. You may or may not know, most oil rig workers are payed based on the price of oil, so when oil dips so do the checks of the workers. Alternative energy jobs bring in seady incomes, or the same amount every check. Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs.
    That was the promise. This is the reality.

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    Clean tech has seen a boost as the U.S. pours government funding into renewable energy, and China looks set to reap much of the benefits. Latest example: a Chinese wind-turbine company has just become the exclusive supplier for one of the largest wind-farm developments in the U.S.

    The Shenyang Power Group has signed on to supply 240 of its massive 2.5-megawatt wind turbines to a 36,000-acre development in West Texas. The Wall Street Journal reports that the wind farm is also slated to receive $1.5 billion in financing from the Export-Import Bank of China.


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    This comes as the U.S. has increasingly out-sourced much of its wind turbine development. Less than a quarter of wind turbine components installed in the U.S. came from domestic production, and Europe currently holds the lion's share of turbine manufacturing. A Norwegian firm launched the world's first full-scale floating wind turbine this September.

    As a reflection of this, just 15 percent of the 2,800 new jobs from the new wind-turbine development will take the form of U.S. jobs. The U.S. government has tried to help the nation's renewable energy industry with $500 million in grants -- but it will likely take a while for U.S. wind power manufacturers to play catch-up after struggling with an uneven market.....
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    No, what it has done is opened-up a whole new field of energy jobs that have a more steady stream of income. You may or may not know, most oil rig workers are payed based on the price of oil, so when oil dips so do the checks of the workers. Alternative energy jobs bring in seady incomes, or the same amount every check. Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs.
    And, where are those jobs at? They don't actually exist, do they? Nor are there enough of them to offset the unemployment the Liberals have caused.

    Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs
    Got some evidence of that? I work in the oilfield and haven't heard anything about those jobs, or those flocks.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    What happened was globalization. That is it and all.
    That would be globalization brought on by high taxation and union benefits driving industries overseas and into bankruptcies.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

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    That would be globalization brought on by high taxation and union benefits driving industries overseas and into bankruptcies.
    Well it is kind of ironic that we fought a civil war over protectionist tariffs that forced production and distribution of manufactured goods to remain in the US and now we have pretty much handed all that production to overseas entities.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I would you rather explain to me how repubs would do it any different. From the economy to healthcare, and actually create positive change.
    You don't mean "Republicans", you mean Americans.

    The correct thing to do for the economy is to cut taxes. Specifically, cut everyone's marginal tax rate, especially cutting the taxes of those people paying most of the tax. ELIMINATE the capital gains tax and all corporate income taxes. People pay income tax when the income is realized to them, that's good enough.

    That will create jobs.

    What?!!! You say that will increase the deficit? Not if you demand Congress cut spending to where the Constitution allows it.

    Health care? Easy. The Congress has the authority to regulate interstate commerce. It's about time the Congress allowed interstate insurance sales. Duh. And make the patient pay, not the taxpayer. The patient using his own money is a wiser shopper than the morons in Congress.

    Yes, unlike socialists and liberals, Americans have the right answers.

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