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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_in_mich View Post
    As an American who wants what's best for this nation I agree.

    As a conservative - please, no - leave them in power so we can run against them!
    The problem is that those kinds of politicians are sometimes popular (not right now) on the other side of the aisle.


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Obama won because people were sick of Bush and his policies. Bush was an inept president. He got us into a stupid war in Iraq that is unpopular. He was perceived as a tool of the oil companies. He was originally elected under shady circumstances.

    Obama was perceived as hip, Black, different. He came across well. They could vote for a Black who was 'articulate' and tell their friends they voted for 'change' and were a part of 'history'.

    He wasn't elected specifically on healthcare.

    This vote is a resounding negative commentary on Obama and his harebrained tax and spend policies of caving into fatcat lobbyists, paying off political cronies, and not delivering on promises made.
    I agree with some of this, but not all - Bush was not inept but was successfully portrayed as such by a ridiculously, mindless liberal media (tune into the networks and MSNBC tonight).

    2 basic problems for Obama - the far left actually thought he was lying about his centrist, pragmatic rhetoric during the campaign, the independents believed his centrist pragmatic rhetoric during the campaign. Neither camp paid attention to the folks who pointed out that he's never really done anything. The past year has proven, without a doubt, that he doesn't have a clue how to execute.

    Unfortunately for the left, he doesn't appear to be as opportunistic as Clinton was after his disastrous first 2 years.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_in_mich View Post
    2 basic problems for Obama - the far left actually thought he was lying about his centrist, pragmatic rhetoric during the campaign, the independents believed his centrist pragmatic rhetoric during the campaign. Neither camp paid attention to the folks who pointed out that he's never really done anything. The past year has proven, without a doubt, that he doesn't have a clue how to execute.
    Perfectly well put.


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_in_mich View Post
    As an American who wants what's best for this nation I agree.

    As a conservative - please, no - leave them in power so we can run against them!
    It all goes around. The Republicans haven't won anything significant in in 6 years. Just like the Democrats didn't win anything the 6 years prior to that.

    I just wish this country was more focused on issues in making this country better and more prosperous then which political party was in majority so they have the ability to squeeze partisan policies through.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I just wish this country was more focused on issues in making this country better and more prosperous then which political party was in majority so they have the ability to squeeze partisan policies through.
    I agree.

    I am not certain that this victory is good for our country long term. While I am very much against many of the Dems proposed ideas such as the health care, cap & trade, amnisty, ect. I believe with a few victories the american population may lose focus on the overall health of our country. We will simply put politics aside and let things run thier course. Many of the recently proposed ideas has opened up alot of people to the workings of our country and have let themselves be heard. I am afraid that without some catistrophic bill on the horizen that we will simply let things continue its slow process of distruction. I mean after all we have been in a steady decline for 100+ years. Its going to take alot worse to get us to change that.

    Gosh its 12:30 in the morn and Im sick. I hope that makes sense. Im a bit muddle minded here.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    I am sorry to report that you are all wrong when it comes to the reasons behind this stunning victory.

    It was not because of Obama clearly being a lying anti-American Socialist.

    It was not Because Nancy Pelosi is the "Wicked Witch of the West" or that Harry Reid is obviously suffering from reduced mental capacity.

    And it's not because of the Socialist over reaching fake health care legislation.

    And finally it was not because to the backlash of the progressive movement.

    I am please to announce that Mr. Brown won because of Global Warming and because God is punishing Danny Glover for making a deal with the demonic Mel Gibson to make Lethal Weapon Movies which made Glover famous.
    Thank God and EXON

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And Reagan was in politics for over 20 years before he was elected president ven making the key note speech for Goldwater in 1964.........
    Her social conservatism will be even less relevant twenty years from now.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Her social conservatism will be even less relevant twenty years from now.
    Stop it. Social conservatism is gaining ground. Can't you see? Massachusetts just elected a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, a-religious Republican who happens to be supportive of Obama's military decisions.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_in_mich View Post
    Hmm, what evidence do you have to suggest that Americans are moving left on social issues?
    Electorate demography.



    The socially conservative demographics (older people) are thinning out, while the socially liberal ones (younger people) are expanding.

    Younger people tend to be less invested in religious values concerning drug use, abortion, and sexuality, which means the electorate as a whole will become less receptive to hard-line social conservatism over time.

    I respectfully suggest that you learn a bit more about Palin before you typecast her.
    I know she's no Reagan.

    Underestimate her at your own peril. I would hazard a guess that most of what guides your opinion has been framed by the same folks who view Scott Brown as a joke (hint - Keith Olbermann).
    I want the GOP to win in 2012. That's why I think they should forget about Palin and find a more palatable candidate. One who is fiscally conservative, strong on defense, and socially moderate. Scott Brown fits that mold quite well. Brown and Romney would make quite the handsome ticket.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He is a pro life, anti gay marriage, anti health care bill conservative........
    He got one right

    I'm pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and anti-healthcare bill libertarian.

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