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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Like it matters whether our President is smart. Sure, it's fine if they have a decent intellect but it's not like Obama is making decisions by himself in a vacuum. For instance, I hope no one truly believes Obama formulates his own policy or writes his own speeches! He relies on some character judgment and a solid amount of luck to make sure the people that surround him aren't morons. Other than that... I doubt any presidential candidate since the 1900s could really have enough intellect to understand the minutiae of policy.
    I agree to a large degree.

    Reagan had a clear vision and the brains to understand he had to get the right people into the right seats, and let them carry out his vision.
    Being Governor of California helped with the task.
    The press ceaselessly called Reagan a dangerous moron.

    Obama, lacks judgment, and it was this he claimed to have in spades.
    He ranted about his judgment endlessly on the trail.
    What did he do? Nominated three tax cheats for cabinet positions, including one for the treasury.
    And the press slobbers about how brilliant he is.

    He lacks executive experience.
    His only experience is organizing people, and he failed at that.
    No private business expereince, in fact he loathed his only private sector job.

    Palin like Reagan has executive experience in a state that has a serious role in our national economy; unlike Clinton... heralded as another genius.

    I'll take the morons Thankyou.

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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Like it matters whether our President is smart. Sure, it's fine if they have a decent intellect but it's not like Obama is making decisions by himself in a vacuum. For instance, I hope no one truly believes Obama formulates his own policy or writes his own speeches! He relies on some character judgment and a solid amount of luck to make sure the people that surround him aren't morons. Other than that... I doubt any presidential candidate since the 1900s could really have enough intellect to understand the minutiae of policy.
    Interesting post. I think this is often overlooked.

    Look at any business/organization/corporation - rarely is the most 'intelligent' person the CEO. Why? Because it's rare that a genius knows how to apply the knowledge that they have.

    The best CEOs are excellent managers who are able to gather the smartest people on various subjects/areas and make good decisions by asking the right questions of the experts (and the naysayers) and then weighing the benefits and risks.

    During the '08 campaign this was probably my biggest concern about Obama - he doesn't have a background that we can draw on to determine if he would do this well.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    I'm enjoying watching Chris Mathews practically in tears with the shocked look on his face. He won't accept any excuse for this Dem defeat except for a bad campaign. It couldn't have been related to her planned role as an Obama druid and health care bill supporter.
    Obama lied... Ambassador Stevens died!

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    This Dem is and has been. I'm Glad a Republican was able to take the position.

    The government has no business in wasting my money on a program that can be more efficiently run in the private sector with simple Government oversight.
    I heard on Fox tonight that Senators Bayh and Webb said to hold off on any health care bill until Brown is seated.......
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Except Reagan spoke extremely well, and was very intellectually engaging. Palin possesses neither of these qualities. Moreover, Americans are starting to move left on social issues, as they should be, which means Palin's social conservatism will only hurt her chances.
    And Reagan was in politics for over 20 years before he was elected president ven making the key note speech for Goldwater in 1964.........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    I'm enjoying watching Chris Mathews practically in tears with the shocked look on his face. He won't accept any excuse for this Dem defeat except for a bad campaign. It couldn't have been related to her planned role as an Obama druid and health care bill supporter.
    I rarely watch MSNBC, but had to tune in just to see Mathews, Maddow and Olbermann.

    Just waiting for one of their heads to explode.

    Maddow keeps mentioning that Coakley is a long time public servant. Uh, so is Brown.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I heard on Fox tonight that Senators Bayh and Webb said to hold off on any health care bill until Brown is seated.......
    As they should. The problem in the Democrats in the higher ranking positions are all crap and make the rest of the Democrats look bad.

    We Democrats need to get rid of Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and their ilk.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Except Reagan spoke extremely well, and was very intellectually engaging. Palin possesses neither of these qualities. Moreover, Americans are starting to move left on social issues, as they should be, which means Palin's social conservatism will only hurt her chances.
    Hmm, what evidence do you have to suggest that Americans are moving left on social issues?

    I respectfully suggest that you learn a bit more about Palin before you typecast her.

    Underestimate her at your own peril. I would hazard a guess that most of what guides your opinion has been framed by the same folks who view Scott Brown as a joke (hint - Keith Olbermann).

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I think this is the "real" lesson of the last election. The democrats thought the country wanted a liberal regime with liberal policies. I think the american public was simply tired of bush's spending policies. I'm with you. The republicans, assuming they win big this fall, better come through for us.
    Obama won because people were sick of Bush and his policies. Bush was an inept president. He got us into a stupid war in Iraq that is unpopular. He was perceived as a tool of the oil companies. He was originally elected under shady circumstances.

    Obama was perceived as hip, Black, different. He came across well. They could vote for a Black who was 'articulate' and tell their friends they voted for 'change' and were a part of 'history'.

    He wasn't elected specifically on healthcare.

    This vote is a resounding negative commentary on Obama and his harebrained tax and spend policies of caving into fatcat lobbyists, paying off political cronies, and not delivering on promises made.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    As they should. The problem in the Democrats in the higher ranking positions are all crap and make the rest of the Democrats look bad.

    We Democrats need to get rid of Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and their ilk.
    As an American who wants what's best for this nation I agree.

    As a conservative - please, no - leave them in power so we can run against them!

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