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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Watching the local Mass news affiliate and they are saying almost 2.3 million total voters got out and voted and thats half of Mass registered voters. Half stayed home.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The bill ain't dead yet.

    There's a version the Senate passed.

    Barney Backdoor Frank is right now trying to figure out a way to get the House to pass the Senate bill or to change the rules to backdoor a reconciliation out through the Senate with a simple majority vote. (What did you think I meant by Backdoor Frank?)
    Okay, it's possible, but the margin is razor thin now. The House Democrats are crapping their pants at the thought of 2010, so I don't see the Senate version making it through.

    As to reconciliation, Americans wouldn't sit down for that one. They clearly do not want the Democrat's version of health care reform. The Dems would defy the people at their own peril.

    Yes, that is a good thing, so long as the Repubicans in the Senate can be held in line. But, quick as you can say "amnesty for illegals", and McCain and others will be out there sharpening their knives against America again.
    That's a given.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    The point is that people voted for him based on the above platforms. The electorate is changing. People no longer care as much about the social issues.
    Speak for yourself........There are social and fiscal issues....Social issues may not be important to you but they are important to a hell of a lot of us..........
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    Watching the local Mass news affiliate and they are saying almost 2.3 million total voters got out and voted and thats half of Mass registered voters. Half stayed home.
    100% of Massachusett[e]s voted.

    Getting half to come out for a special election is significant, the others voted with their asses, and kept them home.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    There are two ways to make the government smaller.

    Civil War.

    Electing candidates who will cut the tumor from the inside, like "Fantastic Voyage".

    If you don't like the first option, the only choice is to trust candidates will keep their word.
    Okay then let's vote those people into office, let's see what happens. Seriously, I don't know if it will be bad or good, but i have yet to see a good example of that.

    Humans are inherently flawed, therefore it is very rarely you find someone in a seat of power actually denying their own power.


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Worse would be if they pull obvious shenanigans with seating him. The blowback would be torrential, perhaps even fatal.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Speak for yourself........There are social and fiscal issues....Social issues may not be important to you but they are important to a hell of a lot of us..........
    Scott Brown did not win because he is socially conservative.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    He won because he campaigned against Obamacare and the people of Massachusetts already have government insurance; a lot of them are very disappointed with it, as they should be, and the ones who do like it don't want national health insurance either. That's not to say his fiscal conservatism wasn't crucial in his victory, because it underpinned his entire message, but you seem to be overplaying the significance of his socially conservative stances, like abortion and gay marriage.

    Moreover, his stance on the aforementioned issues can't really be encapsulated by simplistic terms like, "pro-life" and "anti-gay marriage". They're a little more nuanced than that.
    I listened to a focus group of dems tonight and they love their health care and don't want Obama to touch it......that is why they voted for him......
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    Watching the local Mass news affiliate and they are saying almost 2.3 million total voters got out and voted and thats half of Mass registered voters. Half stayed home.
    For a special election, that is an incredibly high turnout rate.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Well heyro there Mr. Fillibuster!

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