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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    He probably won't even get to vote on the bill, but assuming he does, how much will he sell his vote for?
    One can only hope he doesn't. I'm listening to his acceptance speach. He seems like he might be a good guy. At least he's promising to do some things I want to see. I'm thinking the whole country will be watching.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    the question about what the party's gonna do next is not that difficult to anticipate

    that is, leadership is going to continue either to cram its crap thru its choking caucus

    or leadership is gonna actually get the message for once and back off

    the point---what leadership decides to do is not all that relevant anymore

    it's now entirely up to membership as to whether or not they're gonna follow

    the initiative in party affairs now belongs to membership

    as for obama, we've never really seen him yet at such a fork in his road

    is he gonna continue his health-care-or-bust approach, his cap-and-trade-at-all-costs crusade

    or will he instead go the survivalist route outlined before by such ass-kicked leaders as bill clinton and gov schwarzenegger

    personally, the obama i've come to know appears psychically incapable of acting other than he has, he's almost hardwired to close his ears to his constituents, to know better, to rule according to that radical text they taught him at harvard law, unable to adjust to changing realities as he goes...

    these methodologies may work quite well in chicago, where obama was once successful

    but big shoulders bullying doesn't govern america, coast to coast, well, not well, at all

    obama doesn't know this, he does not understand american politics at its largest

    he doesn't appear to appreciate that to succeed in the US at a national level you have to build consensus, you have to have a vision and follow it consistently, you have to be perpetually positive

    if obama doesn't know how to talk to kansas, how's he gonna suddenly learn TONIGHT?

    we'll see
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I never said I was in favor of Obama care or cap and trade. I haven't even mentioned them. I simply expect spending and increased government from the Dems. Hell it's what they do. At least they're not hypocrites about it.
    The public option and cap & trade are dead. They aren't coming back for a long, long time.

    What about that is not awesome to you?

    No it would not. Spare me the hyperbole. It would have simply taken our money and spent it on something the Dems wanted. It's exactly what the GOP would do if they could get their greedy little hands on our cash. Of course they'd spend it on something different, but just as wasteful.
    What do you think the public option and cap and trade would have done to American capitalism!? We're not talking about stupid pork projects here. We're talking about fundamental alterations to our economic system.

    Sure. Great. We have temporarily slowed down government spending.
    No, we killed Obamacare and cap & trade. Killed them.

    And the only reason the GOP supporters on this site are happy about that is because it's spending they didn't like.
    True enough, but I'm happy for different reasons.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's good so long as what they say is true.
    Which is highly unlikely.

    Look I am sometimes libertarian as you are, a lot of times I think politicians are hacks. If that's the case then why should be believe a person from big government to help control big government. The cleverest politicians have discovered that tapping into this libertarian side of America is pure gold for them.

    A great example of this is Sarah Palin.


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Yeah let's vote in more people who say "Hey vote me into a public government office so we can stop the government."
    Yes!!! Couldn't agree more!

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    What does that have anything to do with anything?

    It's explained by a moment's consideration of what I quoted with that post.

    When you choose to use that moment is up to you, of course.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It's explained by a moment's consideration of what I quoted with that post.

    When you choose to use that moment is up to you, of course.
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    All I said was Brown is very conservative, nothing about Haiti. Why are you even connecting the two?


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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Which is highly unlikely.

    Look I am sometimes libertarian as you are, a lot of times I think politicians are hacks. If that's the case then why should be believe a person from big government to help control big government. The cleverest politicians have discovered that tapping into this libertarian side of America is pure gold for them.

    A great example of this is Sarah Palin.

    There are two ways to make the government smaller.

    Civil War.

    Electing candidates who will cut the tumor from the inside, like "Fantastic Voyage".

    If you don't like the first option, the only choice is to trust candidates will keep their word.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    Hopefully the Obama Kool-aid drinkers have come out of their stupor and realized that Obama was leading us down the road to Communism. Matthews on MSNBC openly admitted his Marxist leanings. We had partisan Democrats come out and say they would cheat to win this election it was so important for them to change this nation from a democratic nation to a communist nation. We were on the precipice and stepped back from the abyss.

    Having said this, the word is that Obama still intends to ram this misbegotten health bill through regardless of how many seats are lost in November. This is a modern version of the Charge of the Light Brigade.

    Obama is the worst president in U.S. history. And the worst is yet to come.
    Right on my friend...Long time no see......
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    All I said was Brown is very conservative, nothing about Haiti. Why are you even connecting the two?
    Have you spent your moment wisely?

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