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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Tell that to the 9/11 families.
    Their family members were killed by journalists?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    I seriously doubt its that hard for the FBI. Surely there a Judge or two that works in close enough proximity to key FBI persons that a warrant can be obtained. Also the old law said they could get a warrant upto 72 hrs AFTER they tapped. A warrant helps track who was tapped and why. Someone stated call history wasn't a big deal. Losing Freedoms, even small ones is a big deal. Why? Because often times a lost freedom started out small with good intentions but grew.....
    The procedure requires looking into each case for itself.
    It takes time for the court to give away the warrant, even if it would approve it most of the times.

    As to the other part, there is the freedom to live your life in security and not to be threatened by others.
    It is actually one of, if not the most, important freedoms of the individual.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The procedure requires looking into each case for itself.
    It takes time for the court to give away the warrant, even if it would approve it most of the times.

    As to the other part, there is the freedom to live your life in security and not to be threatened by others.
    It is actually one of, if not the most, important freedoms of the individual.
    And government intrusion on privacy is a breach of security.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Tell that to the 9/11 families.
    I wasn't asking them, answer the damn question, stop dodging and some up with a real response.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    And government intrusion on privacy is a breach of security.
    Nope, it's a breach of privacy, a much smaller threat than the breach of security.

    Know your rights, buddy.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    I wasn't asking them, answer the damn question, stop dodging and some up with a real response.
    I did give you a real response. If you don't like it, then I don't know what to tell you.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    I am outraged by this, someone need to go to jail for this now.
    Yeah, throw somebody in the pokie! That'll fix it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    And government intrusion on privacy is a breach of security.
    I wonder how many of the Liberals were up-n-arms when Helen Kelly violated Joe The Plumber's 4th Amendment rights.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    As to the other part, there is the freedom to live your life in security and not to be threatened by others.
    It is actually one of, if not the most, important freedoms of the individual.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Nope, it's a breach of privacy, a much smaller threat than the breach of security.

    Know your rights, buddy.
    If the government oversteps its bounds and intrudes in my life and my privacy it is both a threat and a source of insecurity.

    This is why there is this silly thing here in the U.S. that we decided to call our ahem.. Bill of Rights, they mention something about illegal search and seizure security and all.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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