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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Not to mention that the call history is only taken if the FBI considers you a suspect or a potential threat.
    You mean like NYT and WP reporters?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    All the more easier for them to just obtain the warrant.
    Until someone slips through the cracks and frags a few hundred people. Then, you'll wondering why no one tried to stop them.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    All the more easier for them to just obtain the warrant.
    Contrary to popular belief, it is not really easy for the FBI (or any other law-enforcing institution) to receive a warrant from the court.
    It requires a difficult procedure, as any other appeal to the court.

    And at investigations when time is essential, it might have been a contributing decision, while law-violating, to take the call record without a warrant.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeppers!

    I've rethunk my position. If they want to listen in on my calls, that's fine. They won't hear anything interesting...lol
    And you're free to agree to it. Just don't make me agree along with you. I will hold the government to the law and to the Constitution. They'll have to respect my rights and liberties, acting accordingly. I'm not going to consent to their search and seizure of my information, my effects and papers, without proper warrant first.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Contrary to popular belief, it is not really easy for the FBI (or any other law-enforcing institution) to receive a warrant from the court.
    It requires a difficult procedure, as any other appeal to the court.

    And at investigations when time is essential, it might have been a contributing decision, while law-violating, to take the call record without a warrant.
    Them's the breaks of freedom my friend.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    You mean like NYT and WP reporters?
    I mean like potential threats.
    The FBI know who their suspects are.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And you're free to agree to it. Just don't make me agree along with you. I will hold the government to the law and to the Constitution. They'll have to respect my rights and liberties, acting accordingly. I'm not going to consent to their search and seizure of my information, my effects and papers, without proper warrant first.
    You'll do it and like it!...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Them's the breaks of freedom my friend.
    A minor break of freedom, and yes, it should be pointed out (once again) that the law is above everyone.

    I did suggest to try and partially-legalize the act, to a degree where the FBI gets more support from the law.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You'll do it and like it!...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrpx4NAtsFQ"]YouTube- You'll Get Nothing and Like It[/ame]
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're a good egg, Noonan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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