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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    While keeping relevance to the level of severity of the committed violation, yes.
    How will you know if there is a violation by the defendant prior to the verdict?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So why do you make the distinction?
    Because I acknowledge the differences in the levels of severity between the two respected cases.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Because I acknowledge the differences in the levels of severity between the two respected cases.
    Why do you do so? In for a penny, in for a pound, right?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    How will you know if there is a violation by the defendant prior to the verdict?
    If the law has been violated, and the 'defendant' has been found guilty, then the punishment would be in accordance with the severity of the violation.
    As in any other violation of the law.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    If the law has been violated, and the 'defendant' has been found guilty, then the punishment would be in accordance with the severity of the violation.
    As in any other violation of the law.
    So the defendant gets a lesser sentence because the government collected evidence improperly?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Why do you do so? In for a penny, in for a pound, right?
    Both are wrong, one worse than the other.

    Taking a phone record is a minor violation of a person's privacy, monitoring a person is a major one.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So the defendant gets a lesser sentence because the government collected evidence improperly?
    Please elaborate, what do you mean by "collected evidence improperly"?
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Please elaborate, what do you mean by "collected evidence improperly"?
    Let's say the government monitored phone calls without a warrant and in violation of all the relevant statutes on wiretapping.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Let's say the government monitored phone calls without a warrant and in violation of all the relevant statutes on wiretapping.
    Then the case against the defendant is dropped.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Let's say the government monitored phone calls without a warrant and in violation of all the relevant statutes on wiretapping.
    Then the violation is way bigger than taking a phone record, and should have severe consequences, in accordance to the act.
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