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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Because the reason they don't obey the current law is because it is restricting them.
    Well hell, there's a ton of laws that restrict me. Howzabout if I just break them all until Congress finally changes them?

    That's got to be the dumbest rationale I've read this month.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Well hell, there's a ton of laws that restrict me. Howzabout if I just break them all until Congress finally changes them?
    That is incomparable, we're speaking here on a body that has to do a specific job, and that job is being restricted.
    I'm also not saying that it's okay to violate the law because it restricts you from doing your important job, but suggesting to partially legalize the act in order to come to terms.
    That's got to be the dumbest rationale I've read this month.
    And here's me thinking that you are actually reading your posts before you post them.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That is incomparable, we're speaking here on a body that has to do a specific job, and that job is being restricted.
    I'm also not saying that it's okay to violate the law because it restricts you from doing your important job, but suggesting to partially legalize the act in order to come to terms.
    You know, the FBI had a **** ton of legally-obtained intel on a certain terrorist act committed in September, 2001. The problem is not that they need more intel; the problem is that they don't read, understand, and/or use the intel they have. Whittling away at my rights won't fix that.
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    And here's me thinking [...]
    That's certainly debatable.

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That is incomparable, we're speaking here on a body that has to do a specific job, and that job is being restricted.
    Of course it is. The government is supposed to be restricted on many fronts, especially when it comes to the rights and liberties of the individual. The government cannot be allowed to run around unrestricted.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    You know, the FBI had a **** ton of legally-obtained intel on a certain terrorist act committed in September, 2001. The problem is not that they need more intel; the problem is that they don't read, understand, and/or use the intel they have. Whittling away at my rights won't fix that.
    While your FBI-bashing is certainly contributing, such a proposal would allow the institution to work better and more effectively, perhaps preventing such mistakes in the future.
    That's certainly debatable.
    How cute.
    That statement is implying that you are capable of debating, while all your arguments are about is personal attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course it is. The government is supposed to be restricted on many fronts, especially when it comes to the rights and liberties of the individual. The government cannot be allowed to run around unrestricted.
    I'm glad we are in agreement.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    While your FBI-bashing is certainly contributing, such a proposal would allow the institution to work better and more effectively, perhaps preventing such mistakes in the future.
    Pointing out facts that even the FBI acknowledges is considered "bashing"? That's a unique take.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    How cute.
    That statement is implying that you are capable of debating, while all your arguments are about is personal attacks.
    I'm almost sorry about hurting your feelings.

    Tell you what: let's just have the FBI install a camera in everyone's bedroom and tap everyone's phones. That would make their job really easy then, right?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Pointing out facts that even the FBI acknowledges is considered "bashing"? That's a unique take.
    It's not the facts, sir, it's the tone.
    I'm almost sorry about hurting your feelings.
    Don't be. I have got none.
    I am however obliged to inform you of the forum's rules, because, as you may already know... the law is above everyone - and we have to stand on principle.
    Tell you what: let's just have the FBI install a camera in everyone's bedroom and tap everyone's phones. That would make their job really easy then, right?
    I have already made that example in one of my previous posts here.
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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It's not the facts, sir, it's the tone.
    I suggest you learn to deal with it, then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Don't be. I have got none.
    I am however obliged to inform you of the forum's rules, because, as you may already know... the law is above everyone - and we have to stand on principle.
    I really can't do my job effectively with all these silly rules. Let's change them!
    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I have already made that example in one of my previous posts here.
    And ... ?

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    Re: FBI broke law for years in phone record searches

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I suggest you learn to deal with it, then.
    I believe I have.
    I really can't do my job effectively with all these silly rules. Let's change them!
    Please do keep relavence to the subject, knowing that your job is not to throw personal attacks.
    And ... ?
    And you are able to understand my position on it from my post, that I'm sure of.
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