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    Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Looks like the Democrats have a contingency plan of Brown wins in Massachusetts, and becomes the vote that insures a GOP filibuster of Obama's health plan:

    Send the Senate bill straight to the House, and pass it. That way, they avoid the conference committee entirely.

    My prediction is that the health bill is going to become law, in one form or another, no matter how the Massachusetts Senate election turns out. One way or another, the damage has already been done.

    Something to think about when deciding who to vote for in 2010.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like the Democrats have a contingency plan of Brown wins in Massachusetts, and becomes the vote that insures a GOP filibuster of Obama's health plan:

    Send the Senate bill straight to the House, and pass it. That way, they avoid the conference committee entirely.
    This is one of several options available to the Democrats. They could:

    1. Have the House pass the Senate bill, with the understanding that some of the House's tweaks will be passed through reconciliation later (best option IMO)
    2. Hastily negotiate a final deal and pass it in both houses before Brown takes his seat
    3. Go back to the negotiating table with Olympia Snowe
    4. Pass a watered-down compromise bill through reconciliation
    5. Use the "nuclear option" and get rid of the filibuster entirely


    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea
    My prediction is that the health bill is going to become law, in one form or another, no matter how the Massachusetts Senate election turns out. One way or another, the damage has already been done.
    My prediction: If Brown wins, the Democrats panic like a bunch of idiots and the bill dies altogether.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like the Democrats have a contingency plan of Brown wins in Massachusetts, and becomes the vote that insures a GOP filibuster of Obama's health plan:

    Send the Senate bill straight to the House, and pass it. That way, they avoid the conference committee entirely.

    My prediction is that the health bill is going to become law, in one form or another, no matter how the Massachusetts Senate election turns out. One way or another, the damage has already been done.

    Something to think about when deciding who to vote for in 2010.

    Article is here.
    that it will be passed is my prediction as well, and the sooner the better.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This is one of several options available to the Democrats. They could:

    1. Have the House pass the Senate bill, with the understanding that some of the House's tweaks will be passed through reconciliation later (best option IMO)
    2. Hastily negotiate a final deal and pass it in both houses before Brown takes his seat
    3. Go back to the negotiating table with Olympia Snowe
    4. Pass a watered-down compromise bill through reconciliation
    5. Use the "nuclear option" and get rid of the filibuster entirely




    My prediction: If Brown wins, the Democrats panic like a bunch of idiots and the bill dies altogether.

    And some people should learn how the US government works.

    If the House passes the Senate bill, there's no reconciliation, it goes straight to the Messiah.

    If the House makes a single change, no matter how small, it has to go to reconciliation, but not as a budget bill, and it would require 60 votes to end debate.

    The Senate would have to reconfigure the monstrosity as a budget bill to pass it with 51 votes, and then the House would have to do the same. Which takes time, and all the widdle Congressmen are up for re-election soon, and they're getting more uncomfortable with this disaster every day.

    So there's a very very good chance, because Drunken Teddy did us all a huge favor and died, that MessiahCare will go the way of Hillarycare, and the Democrat single-party rule disaster might very well end, too.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    The ONLY option is that they send the Senate bill, as is, to Obama. It lacks many of the things so near and dear to Pelosi and her wacko cronies. That would be a political disaster for both Democrats and Republicans.

    Ted Kennedy's death is going to SAVE us from socialized healthcare. I will never get over that irony.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post

    My prediction is that the health bill is going to become law, in one form or another, no matter how the Massachusetts Senate election turns out. One way or another, the damage has already been done.
    The real damage was done between 2000 and 2006 when the GOP spent 6 years taking a dump on this great Nation. If they had governed sensibly then we wouldn't have the 60 vote democratic majority now.

    Let's not forget that.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    The real damage was done between 2000 and 2006 when the GOP spent 6 years taking a dump on this great Nation. If they had governed sensibly then we wouldn't have the 60 vote democratic majority now.

    Let's not forget that.
    You mean when they failed to stop Dodd and Frank from dumping on this country? Fannie and Freddie belong to the Democrats.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    The GOP took a dump, and the Democrats joined them, because Democrats, especially Barney, like that kind of thing.

    Fact of the matter is that the GOP proved to be led by the same sorts of sleazy bull****ters that pissed off the Americans in the first place. The Republicans, being damn stupid, didn't get the hint in 2006 when the Americans stayed home. The Republicans listened to the morons on the Left who were proclaiming the GOP was too far to the right.

    So, yeah, I'm going to place a whole LOT of blame for the election of the Messiah on the leaders of the GOP, for being idiots.

    Problem is:

    I doubt if the GOP has learned anything useful from all this.

    It's time for the Americans to start voting Libertarian in bigger numbers.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You mean when they failed to stop Dodd and Frank from dumping on this country? Fannie and Freddie belong to the Democrats.
    The GOP had control of the House, the Senate, and the White House for 6 years. They could have killed or restrained Fannie and Freddie at anytime. They chose not too.

    6 years.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The GOP took a dump, and the Democrats joined them, because Democrats, especially Barney, like that kind of thing.

    Fact of the matter is that the GOP proved to be led by the same sorts of sleazy bull****ters that pissed off the Americans in the first place. The Republicans, being damn stupid, didn't get the hint in 2006 when the Americans stayed home. The Republicans listened to the morons on the Left who were proclaiming the GOP was too far to the right.

    So, yeah, I'm going to place a whole LOT of blame for the election of the Messiah on the leaders of the GOP, for being idiots.

    Problem is:

    I doubt if the GOP has learned anything useful from all this.

    It's time for the Americans to start voting Libertarian in bigger numbers.

    On that I agree.
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