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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

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    You say:
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    You can't have him. We need him here in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Oregon.

    We have assisted suicide here as well as a supplementary healthcare plan for Oregon. If you have cancer and need chemotherapy, they offer to pay for your assisted suicide instead. It is what you call a revenue neutral health care plan. If you need help, they tell you to drop dead and keep the money saved.

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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    The GOP controlled all of the committees that had full power over Fannie and Freddie. They chose not to limit the loans being made because they didn't want to slow down the booming housing market.

    The GOP and the Dems screwed the pooch. And then all of us.

    I know it's fun for you to try desperately to find a way to blame the Dems for everything, but it's simply not true.

    The GOP could have killed Fannie and Freddie. And if not killed at least regulated them. They CHOSE not too. For 6 years they had power over every committee and sub committee in the House and Senate. They had control over every piece of legislation that passed through both houses and the White House. And yet somehow you can blame the dems for bad loans from Fannie and Freddie.

    That's simply astounding.
    Education time.

    1. They couldn't Kill Freddie or Fannie. That would take years of unwinding.

    2. You didn't watch that video.

    Dems fought any action against Freddie and Fannie for ages. They had their plants in there. Raines... Gorellick cooking books and siphoning tens of millions for personal gain.

    3. Congress, under Clinton made it a penalty under law not to make the bad loans that caused a whole bunch of this mess.

    4. Warren Buffet:
    Now, these are two incredibly important institutions. I mean, they accounted for over 40% of the mortgage flow a few years back. Right now I think they're up to 70%. They're quasi-governmental in nature. So the government set up an organization called OFHEO... But if you go to OFHEO's website, you'll find that its purpose was to just watch over these two companies. OFHEO had 200 employees. Their job was simply to look at two companies and say, "Are these guys behaving like they're supposed to?" And of course what happened were two of the greatest accounting misstatements in history while these 200 people had their jobs. It's incredible. I mean, two for two!
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Education time.

    1. They couldn't Kill Freddie or Fannie. That would take years of unwinding.

    2. You didn't watch that video.

    Dems fought any action against Freddie and Fannie for ages. They had their plants in there. Raines... Gorellick cooking books and siphoning tens of millions for personal gain.

    3. Congress, under Clinton made it a penalty under law not to make the bad loans that caused a whole bunch of this mess.

    4. Warren Buffet:
    What Warren thinks... - Apr. 14, 2008

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    Supporters of the GOP just keep blaming the Dems for everything. It's amazing. Anything goes wrong on the GOP's watch it's the Dems fault. Apparently everything bad in government belongs to the Dems

    When are you gonna understand that this isn't the kind of leadership the American people are looking for. "Man Up" GOP and accept responsibility for your mistakes. And the same should be said to the GOP's supporters.

    Stop blaming the Dems. Start leading. Start taking responsibility. And I guarantee you we won't see the GOP getting excited about winning one Senate seat. They'll be excited because they'll have majorities in both houses.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Supporters of the GOP just keep blaming the Dems for everything. It's amazing. Anything goes wrong on the GOP's watch it's the Dems fault. Apparently everything bad in government belongs to the Dems

    When are you gonna understand that this isn't the kind of leadership the American people are looking for. "Man Up" GOP and accept responsibility for your mistakes. And the same should be said to the GOP's supporters.

    Stop blaming the Dems. Start leading. Start taking responsibility. And I guarantee you we won't see the GOP getting excited about winning one Senate seat. They'll be excited because they'll have majorities in both houses.
    You're right. I blame the democrats for the stimulus plan. I blame them for the UAW bailout. I blame them for the sneaky behind locked door deals on this healthcare debacle. I'm also still pissed about carter.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Although lending practices were certainly a factor, nothing could have happened without monetary policy. Easy credit and artificially low interests are mainly to blame for the housing bubble. Without the money, there wouldn't have been anything to finance all the speculation and malinvestment.
    So, then, let's put the blame where it belongs - In the Clinton administration, which signed the Gramm-Bliley Act. This is what started the nation down the road to financial crisis. All Bush did was run with the ball, as Obama is doing now. Of course, it was a Republican who came up with the bill, but a Democrat also co-sponsored it, it was passed with the help of both Democrats and Republicans, and signed by a Democrat. There is plenty of blame to go around in both parties.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, then, let's put the blame where it belongs - In the Clinton administration, which signed the Gramm-Bliley Act. This is what started the nation down the road to financial crisis. All Bush did was run with the ball, as Obama is doing now. Of course, it was a Republican who came up with the bill, but a Democrat also co-sponsored it, it was passed with the help of both Democrats and Republicans, and signed by a Democrat. There is plenty of blame to go around in both parties.
    I think it's interesting that John McCain, a Phil Gramm disciple, is now leading the charge to repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. Obama would do well to take him up on that offer.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, then, let's put the blame where it belongs - In the Clinton administration, which signed the Gramm-Bliley Act. This is what started the nation down the road to financial crisis. All Bush did was run with the ball, as Obama is doing now. Of course, it was a Republican who came up with the bill, but a Democrat also co-sponsored it, it was passed with the help of both Democrats and Republicans, and signed by a Democrat. There is plenty of blame to go around in both parties.
    Absolutely! Well said. Both parties concocted that monster and neither wanted to slay it because they BOTH benefited from the economic boom it created. Both parties ignored the warning signs and just let the monster run wild.
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    Re: Democrats May Seek to Push Health Bill Through House

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    The real damage was done between 2000 and 2006 when the GOP spent 6 years taking a dump on this great Nation. If they had governed sensibly then we wouldn't have the 60 vote democratic majority now.

    Let's not forget that.
    Sure, the GOP took a dump on this nation, but the Democrats did too. One way they did it was during Clinton's administration, when both Republicans and Democrats participated in passing the Gramm-Bliley Act, which is what eventually triggered the current economic crisis. For one side to blame the other is nothing but hyperpartisan political hackery. There is plenty of blame to go around, and both parties are guilty as hell.
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