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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    How can the whole site NOT be the venue for discussion? It's a forum. It's a topic regarding taxpayer funded weapons and Christian inscriptions. How is that not up for discussion?

    Not that; the issue of attempting to tar Christians with the hypocrisy-brush for not being pacifistic... even though the Bible isn't pacifistic. Getting into that discussion, however, would involve a lot of heavy scripture references and theological discussion...wrong subforum for that, and frankly I've found attempts at religious discussion on DP to be so unproductive that it isn't really worth it most of the time.


    My opinion is, "So Trijicon puts small references to Scripture on their sights...so what? You don't like it, buy Eotech."
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Not that; the issue of attempting to tar Christians with the hypocrisy-brush for not being pacifistic... even though the Bible isn't pacifistic. Getting into that discussion, however, would involve a lot of heavy scripture references and theological discussion...wrong subforum for that, and frankly I've found attempts at religious discussion on DP to be so unproductive that it isn't really worth it most of the time.
    Ah got it. Thanks.


    My opinion is, "So Trijicon puts small references to Scripture on their sights...so what? You don't like it, buy Eotech."
    Well there's a bigger issue. These weapons are paid for with taxpayer money. The question is whether they should be putting religious scripture of any kind on their weapons, Christian or otherwise.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Well there's a bigger issue. These weapons are paid for with taxpayer money. The question is whether they should be putting religious scripture of any kind on their weapons, Christian or otherwise.
    Actually, IMO, the question is whether the government entities who awarded them the contract were aware of this bit.
    If they were, then any blame assigned because of this should be aimed at those government entities. Unless, of course, the manufacturing company which made them did it on the sly, without telling their buyer.

    If said government entities were not aware, then why not?
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Actually, IMO, the question is whether the government entities who awarded them the contract were aware of this bit.
    If they were, then any blame assigned because of this should be aimed at those government entities. Unless, of course, the manufacturing company which made them did it on the sly, without telling their buyer.

    If said government entities were not aware, then why not?
    If the government entities were aware of the transcriptions the question still remains. Is it acceptable?

    If the government was not originally aware then the next question is - what will they do about it now that they are?

    If we're going to have Christian inscriptions on taxpayer purchased weapons then shouldn't we also have other religions represented? Suppose a Jewish American is blasting away at a couple of bad guys. Shouldn't he have a little Hebrew inscription on his gun? Remember, they all pay taxes so they all helped pay for'em.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    What I do not like is liberal anti-christian ABC News alerting the enemy to this by reporting it.

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    What I do not like is liberal anti-christian ABC News alerting the enemy to this by reporting it.
    What proof do you have that ABC News is "Anti-Christian"?

    How would it effect our enemies if they knew of the Christian Inscriptions on the gun sights? Would our enemies suddenly become immune to the bullets?
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    What proof do you have that ABC News is "Anti-Christian"?

    How would it effect our enemies if they knew of the Christian Inscriptions on the gun sights? Would our enemies suddenly become immune to the bullets?
    No, but it gives them a propaganda weapon.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, but it gives them a propaganda weapon.
    So maybe that's one more good reason not to put the inscriptions on the sights.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    So maybe that's one more good reason not to put the inscriptions on the sights.
    Well, yes, that is why it is a bad thing, as now it can be used as propaganda.

    I don't know why they were put there, if these sights were going to an area where our soldiers would be fighting those whould would use such against us.

    Even if it was a standard company practice to inscribe such, one would think the contract would specify against it, or that they would not get said contract in the first place. Which is why I have questions for those who awarded them the contract.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    I believe they have been doing it since the company's inspection in 1981, it has nothing to do with the military or religious war its a nod to the religious persuasion of the founder of the company. I don't have an issue with this at all


    U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes - ABC News

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    Read the Secret 'Jesus' Messages on U.S. Military Weapons - ABC News

    Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

    The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

    U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

    One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

    Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

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    I'm sure Jesus would be happy. It was probably his goal to have his name tagged on weapons which kill other humans. Cause he totally wasn't a peaceful guy telling people they need to get along and be good to each other.
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