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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Are these being used in the same way as serial numbers or are they random? I really do not know. If they are just being used to put a bible verse on their I'm totally against the expendeture. If thay are some kind of tracking system I'm fine with it.

    Let's say it costs .05 cents per stamp that there is 40 k per 80 unit.
    That's the part that no one really knows and why I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that this is just a coincidental set of serial numbers.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    So, we're supposed to force I don't know how many soldiers to remove, from their rifles, a fully functional, high-quality optic sighting device, because of a TINY (minescule!) inscription that references a chapter/verse of scripture... and force them to wait and make do with iron sights while new sights are made/obtained... oh yeah that sounds like a very rational reaction that will go over well with the soldiers that are in harm's way.

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    read the Federal Acquisition Regulations. the contractor does not get to modify the specifications of the products it makes without the buyer's expressed agreement
    doesn't matter that this does not affect the usefulness of the scope
    if they signed the contract requiring them to furnish scopes made of pot metal and instead - at their own cost - upgraded to gold alloy without the buyer's approval, the contractor would still be subject to liquidated damages

    which begs the point, then why was it added ...
    it was not specified
    it was added unilaterally by the stupid contractor
    that stupidity will cost it dearly


    but that does not mean the inscription is not there, and available to be used against us in a propaganda war by our enemy as well as to potentially trouble soldiers who would object to having to use something which is now a religious artifact, by virtue of the unneeded, unspecified Biblical inscription
    If it does not affect the performance, it cannot be labeled a 'modification'....

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    So, we're supposed to force I don't know how many soldiers to remove, from their rifles, a fully functional, high-quality optic sighting device, because of a TINY (minescule!) inscription that references a chapter/verse of scripture... and force them to wait and make do with iron sights while new sights are made/obtained... oh yeah that sounds like a very rational reaction that will go over well with the soldiers that are in harm's way.
    Makes alotta sense, don't it?...
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Civilians can still put whatever they want on their rifles, though, right? Good....



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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    The military accepted shipment & they have proved effective in the field, therefore they are not defective.....
    a latent defect ... something found after initial acceptance, which is later found to be defective, makes the contractor suceptible to liquidated damages to cure the defect
    How someone 'feels' about them is irrelevant as long as they perform the task they are designed for......
    if the enemy is able to use the weapon in the propaganda war against us, to show that their presentation that we are fighting a religious crusade against islam, then it definately matters what someone feels about them
    if the allied islamic and IDF forces find the weapon unacceptable because it bears a Christian legend, then that they feel that way adversely affects the utility of the weapon
    The Sherriff Joe/pink underwear rule applies here.....
    and if the sheriff had purchased those pink jumpsuits and the contractor unilaterally added a legend on them stating 'joe is a schmuck', then the contractor would be subject to liquidated damages. this assumes the goods would have been purchased with federal monies and thus the contract made subject to the FAR
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    If it does not affect the performance, it cannot be labeled a 'modification'....
    it would be found to have been built out of spec and unacceptable
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it would be found to have been built out of spec and unacceptable
    DoD inspectors signed for the scopes, as is. It belongs to the DoD, now. In the Army, once you sign for something, it's your's; along with the good, the bad, the ugly, the broke and whatever components are missing.
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

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    The military accepted shipment & they have proved effective in the field, therefore they are not defective.....
    a latent defect ... something found after initial acceptance, which is later found to be defective, makes the contractor suceptible to liquidated damages to cure the defect
    It does not affect it's performance, therefore it can not be called defective....
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    How someone 'feels' about them is irrelevant as long as they perform the task they are designed for......

    if the enemy is able to use the weapon in the propaganda war against us, to show that their presentation that we are fighting a religious crusade against islam, then it definately matters what someone feels about them
    if the allied islamic and IDF forces find the weapon unacceptable because it bears a Christian legend, then that they feel that way adversely affects the utility of the weapon
    Who cares what the enemy thinks?......
    I'll wager they are not to keen on cruise missiles either.....
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    The Sherriff Joe/pink underwear rule applies here.....

    and if the sheriff had purchased those pink jumpsuits and the contractor unilaterally added a legend on them stating 'joe is a schmuck', then the contractor would be subject to liquidated damages. this assumes the goods would have been purchased with federal monies and thus the contract made subject to the FAR
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The scopes were produced with religious inscriptions.

    What happens when the scopes are damaged and rendered unreliable during the process to remove the numbers? Who pays for that?
    the contractor

    These are serial numbers, too, BTW. Can you imagine the confusion that changing all of them will cause and how much it will end up costing...all over nothing?
    i agree it is stupid. something unnecessary and not requested was added unilaterally by the contractor. now the contractor has to pony up to make it good. to compound the stupidity, the contractor has already admitted that these are Bible verses. otherwise, they could insist that it was intentionally added nomenclature so that batches could be identified separately ... and possibly gotten away without liquidated damages ... by presenting that the writing was not affixed as a religious reference but that the labeling was necessary in the fabrication and identification of the product for quality control purposes
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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