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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't and I never said it did.

    My point, again, is that if Trijicon loses the contract and it's re-awarded to another maker, it's possible that the second contractor could turn out a substandard unit, causing out soldiers to lose their edge on the battlefield.
    no need to award the contract to another vendor/manufacturer

    but a huge need to assess liquidated damages for the ones already supplied
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no need to award the contract to another vendor/manufacturer

    but a huge need to assess liquidated damages for the ones already supplied
    I just ain't seein' the need for that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I just ain't seein' the need for that.
    it's federal procurement 101
    when the contractor supplies something that is defective, as is the case with the scopes bearing religious inscriptions that may be harmful to the buyer, then that contractor is subject to liquidated damages to cover the costs the military will bear to remove/conceal the inscriptions. which inscriptions could be found deleterious to those IDF and afghani and iraqi soldiers who may object to having to use a weapon with such religious symbolism attached. which inscriptions could prove detrimental to the military by serving as a propaganda mechanism to be used against us by our enemy. in this case "confirmation" that what they have been spreading, that the USA is engaged ina religious war against islam, is provable by those inscriptions on the armaments
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's federal procurement 101
    when the contractor supplies something that is defective, as is the case with the scopes bearing religious inscriptions that may be harmful to the buyer, then that contractor is subject to liquidated damages to cover the costs the military will bear to remove/conceal the inscriptions. which inscriptions could be found deleterious to those IDF and afghani and iraqi soldiers who may object to having to use a weapon with such religious symbolism attached. which inscriptions could prove detrimental to the military by serving as a propaganda mechanism to be used against us by our enemy. in this case "confirmation" that what they have been spreading, that the USA is engaged ina religious war against islam, is provable by those inscriptions on the armaments
    That doesn't make the scopes defective.

    I'm sorry, but I'm finding it hard to wrap my mind around the idea that something is really wrong here.

    Just tell them to stop doing it and let's move on. There are definitely bigger fish to fry.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That doesn't make the scopes defective.

    I'm sorry, but I'm finding it hard to wrap my mind around the idea that something is really wrong here.
    the military did not order the scopes with religious inscriptions
    the military does not want scopes with religious inscriptions
    therefore, the contractor will now be responsible for the costs required to eliminate the religious inscriptions
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's federal procurement 101
    when the contractor supplies something that is defective, as is the case with the scopes bearing religious inscriptions that may be harmful to the buyer, then that contractor is subject to liquidated damages to cover the costs the military will bear to remove/conceal the inscriptions. which inscriptions could be found deleterious to those IDF and afghani and iraqi soldiers who may object to having to use a weapon with such religious symbolism attached. which inscriptions could prove detrimental to the military by serving as a propaganda mechanism to be used against us by our enemy. in this case "confirmation" that what they have been spreading, that the USA is engaged ina religious war against islam, is provable by those inscriptions on the armaments
    It has no bearing on it's effectiveness in the field.....FAIL!...
    When on the business end of a rifle, one generally does not look at the inscription on the gun sight.....
    One cannot see the inscription while using the gun sight either.....

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the military did not order the scopes with religious inscriptions
    the military does not want scopes with religious inscriptions
    therefore, the contractor will now be responsible for the costs required to eliminate the religious inscriptions
    The scopes were produced with religious inscriptions.

    What happens when the scopes are damaged and rendered unreliable during the process to remove the numbers? Who pays for that?

    These are serial numbers, too, BTW. Can you imagine the confusion that changing all of them will cause and how much it will end up costing...all over nothing?
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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the military did not order the scopes with religious inscriptions
    the military does not want scopes with religious inscriptions
    therefore, the contractor will now be responsible for the costs required to eliminate the religious inscriptions
    The military accepted shipment & they have proved effective in the field, therefore they are not defective.....
    How someone 'feels' about them is irrelevant as long as they perform the task they are designed for......
    The Sherriff Joe/pink underwear rule applies here.....

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I think you are grossly over-estimating the cost of adding a couple of numbers and letters to a serial number. If these codes weren't there, they would probably be replaced by normal serial numbers.
    Are these being used in the same way as serial numbers or are they random? I really do not know. If they are just being used to put a bible verse on their I'm totally against the expendeture. If thay are some kind of tracking system I'm fine with it.

    Let's say it costs .05 cents per stamp that there is 40 k per 80 unit.

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    Re: U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    It has no bearing on it's effectiveness in the field.....FAIL!...
    read the Federal Acquisition Regulations. the contractor does not get to modify the specifications of the products it makes without the buyer's expressed agreement
    doesn't matter that this does not affect the usefulness of the scope
    if they signed the contract requiring them to furnish scopes made of pot metal and instead - at their own cost - upgraded to gold alloy without the buyer's approval, the contractor would still be subject to liquidated damages
    When on the business end of a rifle, one generally does not look at the inscription on the gun sight.....
    which begs the point, then why was it added ...
    it was not specified
    it was added unilaterally by the stupid contractor
    that stupidity will cost it dearly

    One cannot see the inscription while using the gun sight either.....
    but that does not mean the inscription is not there, and available to be used against us in a propaganda war by our enemy as well as to potentially trouble soldiers who would object to having to use something which is now a religious artifact, by virtue of the unneeded, unspecified Biblical inscription
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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