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Oregon now has new rules to renew your Drivers License...

Visit a DMV office;

That's right, you have to go there in person.
Present your renewal reminder card and/or your current license;
Have no medical condition that makes you unable to drive safely as defined in OAR 735-062-0007 (2)(a)(b)(c);
Answer medical questions, if you answer “yes” to any of the questions you are not eligible for a license. DMV will not be able to issue you a license until you have established that your medical condition does not affect your ability to drive safely. To do so, DMV may ask you to provide additional medical information and/or to pass additional DMV tests;
If you are 50 years of age (or older) on the renewal date of your driver license, you will need to pass a vision screening test;
Provide proof of your full legal name;
Provide proof of your legal presence in the U.S., identity and date of birth;

That's right, you have to have a long form Birth Certificate, naturalization papers, a valid Green Card or a valid Resident Alien card.
Provide proof of your social security number (SSN);
Provide proof of your Oregon residence address, if your address has changed; and
Pay the renewal fee.

Oregon DMV Renewing a Driver License

I had to renew last month, and I asked why all this new documentation.

It's to stop illegal’s from getting Oregon benefits..... we're going broke because of them.

Go Sheriff Joe!
 
Sheriff Joe is a nazi. He needs to be removed from office.

Are there any laws you believe in, or do you just whine incessantly about everything?
 
Oregon now has new rules to renew your Drivers License...



That's right, you have to go there in person.

That's right, you have to have a long form Birth Certificate, naturalization papers, a valid Green Card or a valid Resident Alien card.

Oregon DMV Renewing a Driver License

I had to renew last month, and I asked why all this new documentation.

It's to stop illegal’s from getting Oregon benefits..... we're going broke because of them.

Go Sheriff Joe!

Washington needs that.....;)
 
"$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens."

This seems to be the bulk of our "cost." If they are all such terrible criminals and can't even speak english why can't the superior american worker get hired over them?

Well, I've worked with illegal immigrants. But nowadays I go to school so I don't have to compete with them. :rofl Anyways, I found that I will have the opportunity to go to college and take a semester internship overseas. They sort of do the same thing, and both processes require a significant amount of money.

Anyways, these guys from Guate were my age, but I couldn't keep up with them. They have to pay off thousands to the lobos that bring them to the states and they have to pay for living expenses. if they can do it, Americans can deal with getting similar pay. Though it has been heard that they live many to a house. If you want a job a mexican can do you should at least be able to do it as well as they can.

Maybe thats the problem?
 
I would personally like to see the illegals rounded up and deported. They are here illegally which makes them undocumented criminals. They are lawbreakers and they are a burden on the American Taxpayer. I remember President Eisenhower had a plan back in the 50's that was successful in removing them. I can't think of the name of it but once it was initiated, hundreds of thousands of illegals left and went back to Mexico.
 
Well, I've worked with illegal immigrants. But nowadays I go to school so I don't have to compete with them. :rofl Anyways, I found that I will have the opportunity to go to college and take a semester internship overseas. They sort of do the same thing, and both processes require a significant amount of money.

Anyways, these guys from Guate were my age, but I couldn't keep up with them. They have to pay off thousands to the lobos that bring them to the states and they have to pay for living expenses. if they can do it, Americans can deal with getting similar pay. Though it has been heard that they live many to a house. If you want a job a mexican can do you should at least be able to do it as well as they can.

Maybe thats the problem?

Exactly, they take the jobs that most americans don't want. How is that a problem? They either do it better or cheaper, or both, what is wrong with that?
 
Well they apparently drain our resources though most of them pay taxes...

not sure what the problem is...

Maybe joe six pack hates seeing them lounging around mainstreet waiting for work.

I just say "Oye Guey, como esta el trabajo?"
 
Anyways, these guys from Guate were my age, but I couldn't keep up with them. They have to pay off thousands to the lobos that bring them to the states and they have to pay for living expenses. if they can do it, Americans can deal with getting similar pay.

Or...the United States government can enforce it's laws, ship those invaders back to Mexico, from whence they can find their own damn way back to Guatemala, and the Americans can reassert their ability to dicker for wages in a free uncoerced market.
 
Exactly, they take the jobs that most americans don't want. How is that a problem?

The problem is with the economic propagandists who insist on leaving out the key words "at the wages offered", just like you failed to include them after the word "want" in your post.

Those for words make all the difference.

So explain why you want to see Mexicans exploited so business can make illegal profits off the backs of hard working native Americans.
 
Or...the United States government can enforce it's laws, ship those invaders back to Mexico, from whence they can find their own damn way back to Guatemala, and the Americans can reassert their ability to dicker for wages in a free uncoerced market.

Invaders?:rofl

You're forgetting the millions of people who employ them happily.

So explain why you want to see Mexicans exploited so business can make illegal profits off the backs of hard working native Americans.

Yeah giving them work unavailable in their country is exploitation...:rofl nice one trying to spin that one into something.
 
The problem is with the economic propagandists who insist on leaving out the key words "at the wages offered", just like you failed to include them after the word "want" in your post.

Those for words make all the difference.

So explain why you want to see Mexicans exploited so business can make illegal profits off the backs of hard working native Americans.

I don't want to see them exploited. I just don't think sending them back to Mexico really fixes the situation. Maybe we should talk to their employers instead.
 
Invaders?:rofl

You're forgetting the millions of people who employ them happily.

No, I"m perfectly aware of the existence of fifth column elements in this nation, as well as traitors.


Yeah giving them work unavailable in their country is exploitation...:rofl nice one trying to spin that one into something.

Using their status as criminals subject to deportation to force their wages down is exploitation.

However, I don't expect socialists to recognize real exploitation when it's their advantage to ignore it.
 
I don't want to see them exploited. I just don't think sending them back to Mexico really fixes the situation. Maybe we should talk to their employers instead.

Sending them back to Mexico fixes the problem of them being in the US causing us problems.

What happens in Mexico isn't our problem.

we should "talk" to their employers, yes. The employers should here, "you're fined $10,000 for each wilfully employeed illegal alien, for a total of $1,200,000. In addition, you face a re-patriation expense of $1,000 for each alien, which is $120,000. And, for employing more than ten illegals, you will serve five years in a federal pound you in the ass prison."

I'm all for talking to the employers of invades.
 
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No, I"m perfectly aware of the existence of fifth column elements in this nation, as well as traitors.

I regret to inform you that you need to consider my sig.

Using their status as criminals subject to deportation to force their wages down is exploitation.

That can occur but you are trying to make it sound endemic to all illegal labor.

However, I don't expect socialists to recognize real exploitation when it's their advantage to ignore it.

I just....:doh... am done with you. Why do conservatives use the words fascist, and invader, and nazi when referring to things that are not even remotely close to their definitions.

Don't bother replying.
 
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Sending them back to Mexico fixes the problem of them being in the US causing us problems.

What happens in Mexico isn't our problem.

What are they doing that is bad?

...they take the jobs that most americans don't want. How is that a problem? They either do it better or cheaper, or both, what is wrong with that?
 
I regret to inform you that you need to consider my sig.

No, that's not a question I need to ask you when you make the answer plain.

That can occur but you are trying to make it sound endemic to all illegal labor.

Guess what?

It's endemic to all illegal labor.

Pulling wages down...it's why they get hired.

I just....:doh... am done with you.

Don't bother replying.

Yes, you lost the argument. People that support the continued invasion of the United States can't win a logical argument.
 
Yes, you lost the argument. People that support the continued invasion of the United States can't win a logical argument.

You are mad, and the reason governments clamp down on their people. Can't you find the logical fallacy in your statement? The fact that you wrote this is a clue that you may be politically mad.
 
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What happens in Mexico isn't our problem.

But, you see, it IS.

Not directly, but anything that happens in the countries around us will, at least slightly, affect the USA.

Even building a massive border fence on all borders wouldn't help.

We would have to have a massive border patrol, combined with multiple layer border fences, radar fences to keep planes out, tunnel prevention methods...
And not just on the land borders.

You see where this is going.

It is completely unreasonable to expect any except a massively expensive border protection system costing trillions to completely block our borders from incursion.

SOMEONE will always get through.

IMO, we need to, among other things:
  1. Somehow force/cajole/persuade/help/assist Mexico/any other country which has immigrants trying to illegally enter the USA into improving their own country to the point that their population doesn't want to leave...or at least most don't.
  2. Improve our immigration system to allow more legal immigrants to enter.

But I really don't know an effective way to deal with the current numbers of illegal immigrants in the USA.

Edit: I mean...sending them all back sounds good, but would be really hard to implement.

Sending them back piecemeal as we catch them would help, but with our border as it is, many would return.

So refer to my 1st numbered point.
 
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You are mad, and the reason governments clamp down on their people. Can't you find the logical fallacy in your statement? The fact that you wrote this is a clue that you may be politically mad.

Of course I am.

I'm pissed off that people their heads up their asses who can't see where they're going are driving the nation over a cliff because their emotions are telling them where to go.

One critical situation this Autocolonoscopics have created in their little socialist introspective fantasyland is the presence of an alien workforce distorting the markets out of recognition and displacing Americans who are then forced to accepts sub-standard wages because their own elected representatives, their own courts, and their own neighbors are determined to sell them down the river while mouthing moronic platitudes about equality and fairness and need, and calling THEM racist.

If you're not mad as hell about this, you're not an American.
 
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