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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    we should "talk" to their employers, yes. The employers should here, "you're fined $10,000 for each wilfully employeed illegal alien, for a total of $1,200,000. In addition, you face a re-patriation expense of $1,000 for each alien, which is $120,000. And, for employing more than ten illegals, you will serve five years in a federal pound you in the ass prison."

    I'm all for talking to the employers of invades.
    Sorry, didn't see this part at first.

    I agree we should crackdown on employers, but probobly not for the same reason and I am not sure I would put quite as harsh a penalty. Personally, I think we should crackdown on employers who do exploit their employees though.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    MR. SE102 should peruse this thread.......
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/immigr...year-jail.html

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But, you see, it IS.
    No, it's not.

    What happens in Haiti or Kosovo or Nameyourpersonallyfavoriteglobal****hole is not our problem.

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    Even building a massive border fence on all borders wouldn't help.
    Right.

    Study the proper uses of anti-personnel land mines and read the Treaty of Hidalgo-Guadalupe.

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    We would have to have a massive border patrol, combined with multiple layer border fences, radar fences to keep planes out, tunnel prevention methods...
    Or, we annex Mexico, replace their corrput government with something, hopefully something even more honest than ours, and leave.

    Mexicans don't love the United States, but their country sucks cactus.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Sorry, didn't see this part at first.
    I added it in.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    I guess I don't understand the anger. They came here by their own power, got work, and work hard for basically jack ****. So we take their job away, then we are going to send them back to where they started only because they are not recognized under our system. There is a simple word for this that many who strongly oppose illegal immigrants use, tyranny.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I guess I don't understand the anger. They came here by their own power, got work, and work hard for basically jack ****. So we take their job away, then we are going to send them back to where they started only because they are not recognized under our system. There is a simple word for this that many who strongly oppose illegal immigrants use, tyranny.
    Why can't these people go through the proper naturalization process? I say if they can't then impliment Eisenhowers Operation Wetback and deport them. We did it back when he issued the order and we can do it now.
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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, it's not.

    What happens in Haiti or Kosovo or Nameyourpersonallyfavoriteglobal****hole is not our problem.
    Why not?

    Why is it not possible for something which happens in other parts of the world to effect the USA?

    And besides, events in Mexico would seem even more likely to effect us, as it shares a border with us, and Haiti and Kosovo do not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Right.

    Study the proper uses of anti-personnel land mines and read the Treaty of Hidalgo-Guadalupe.
    What, we place landmines on all the borders and beaches of our country?

    Even with that, someone would get through.
    Not to mention the US civilian causalities which would result (I say "would", and not "could", because there is always and idiot somewhere...).

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Or, we annex Mexico, replace their corrupt government with something, hopefully something even more honest than ours, and leave.

    Mexicans don't love the United States, but their country sucks cactus.
    This plan seems fraught with pitfalls just waiting to trap us.

    Not to mention it would never get through congress, nor would the majority of the American population accept it.

    I like my idea of getting them to fix their own problems better.
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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I guess I don't understand the anger. They came here by their own power, got work, and work hard for basically jack ****. So we take their job away, then we are going to send them back to where they started only because they are not recognized under our system. There is a simple word for this that many who strongly oppose illegal immigrants use, tyranny.
    Yes, some people don't understand the meaning of the word "illegal".

    Nor do they seem to want to understand the meaning of the phrases "burden on taxpayers", or "displacing Americans" or "distorting the economy" and not even "shipping money out of the economy".

    Why they refuse to admit to understanding simple phrases made up of common English words is a mystery, but it doesn't change the fact that those people don't belong here, weren't invited, are causing the nation harm, and need to go back where they came from.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    Why can't these people go through the proper naturalization process? I say if they can't then impliment Eisenhowers Operation Wetback and deport them. We did it back when he issued the order and we can do it now.
    You mean, expect them to wait in line?

    How uncivilized you are, sir! Why, if they wanted to wait in line, they'd have done so!

    We just need to deport their employers after stripping them of their money.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Why not?

    Why is it not possible for something which happens in other parts of the world to effect the USA?
    Didn't say it doesn't affect the USA.

    I said it's not our problem.

    If Mexico is suddenly OUR problem, I say that the United States should FIX Mexico, not stand idly by while Mexico's rejects invade our nation and harm it.

    That's what we have the US Marines for.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    What, we place landmines on all the borders and beaches of our country?
    You think a lot of Mexicans come into the US from Quebec? You think they're swimming from Mazatlan to Key West?

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    Even with that, someone would get through.
    So? It's some bizarre fallacy of the Left that a deterrent that doesn't work 100% of the time isn't effective. Your lack of understanding basic military strategies doesn't surprise me.

    Land mines serve to deter the flow of the enemy at known locations so resources can be better focused elsewhere. Land mines would help the Border Patrol and the American citizen living on the border by slowing the invasion rate to a manageable level.

    We could run ads on Mexican TV showing Invaders getting their legs blown off when they enter the US illegally, for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Not to mention the US civilian causalities which would result (I say "would", and not "could", because there is always and idiot somewhere...).
    Americans do insist on refusing to learn how to read the signs, don't they?

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    Not to mention it would never get through congress, nor would the majority of the American population accept it.
    The "North American" population doesn't have to accept it. The Americans do.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I like my idea of getting them to fix their own problems better.
    My idea will make them think staying home and dealing with their local problems is a better idea.

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