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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Or...the United States government can enforce it's laws, ship those invaders back to Mexico, from whence they can find their own damn way back to Guatemala, and the Americans can reassert their ability to dicker for wages in a free uncoerced market.
    Invaders?

    You're forgetting the millions of people who employ them happily.

    So explain why you want to see Mexicans exploited so business can make illegal profits off the backs of hard working native Americans.
    Yeah giving them work unavailable in their country is exploitation... nice one trying to spin that one into something.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The problem is with the economic propagandists who insist on leaving out the key words "at the wages offered", just like you failed to include them after the word "want" in your post.

    Those for words make all the difference.

    So explain why you want to see Mexicans exploited so business can make illegal profits off the backs of hard working native Americans.
    I don't want to see them exploited. I just don't think sending them back to Mexico really fixes the situation. Maybe we should talk to their employers instead.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Invaders?

    You're forgetting the millions of people who employ them happily.
    No, I"m perfectly aware of the existence of fifth column elements in this nation, as well as traitors.


    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Yeah giving them work unavailable in their country is exploitation... nice one trying to spin that one into something.
    Using their status as criminals subject to deportation to force their wages down is exploitation.

    However, I don't expect socialists to recognize real exploitation when it's their advantage to ignore it.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I don't want to see them exploited. I just don't think sending them back to Mexico really fixes the situation. Maybe we should talk to their employers instead.
    Sending them back to Mexico fixes the problem of them being in the US causing us problems.

    What happens in Mexico isn't our problem.

    we should "talk" to their employers, yes. The employers should here, "you're fined $10,000 for each wilfully employeed illegal alien, for a total of $1,200,000. In addition, you face a re-patriation expense of $1,000 for each alien, which is $120,000. And, for employing more than ten illegals, you will serve five years in a federal pound you in the ass prison."

    I'm all for talking to the employers of invades.
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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    No, I"m perfectly aware of the existence of fifth column elements in this nation, as well as traitors.
    I regret to inform you that you need to consider my sig.

    Using their status as criminals subject to deportation to force their wages down is exploitation.
    That can occur but you are trying to make it sound endemic to all illegal labor.

    However, I don't expect socialists to recognize real exploitation when it's their advantage to ignore it.
    I just....... am done with you. Why do conservatives use the words fascist, and invader, and nazi when referring to things that are not even remotely close to their definitions.

    Don't bother replying.
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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sending them back to Mexico fixes the problem of them being in the US causing us problems.

    What happens in Mexico isn't our problem.
    What are they doing that is bad?

    ...they take the jobs that most americans don't want. How is that a problem? They either do it better or cheaper, or both, what is wrong with that?

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I regret to inform you that you need to consider my sig.
    No, that's not a question I need to ask you when you make the answer plain.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    That can occur but you are trying to make it sound endemic to all illegal labor.
    Guess what?

    It's endemic to all illegal labor.

    Pulling wages down...it's why they get hired.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I just....... am done with you.

    Don't bother replying.
    Yes, you lost the argument. People that support the continued invasion of the United States can't win a logical argument.

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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Yes, you lost the argument. People that support the continued invasion of the United States can't win a logical argument.
    You are mad, and the reason governments clamp down on their people. Can't you find the logical fallacy in your statement? The fact that you wrote this is a clue that you may be politically mad.
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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What happens in Mexico isn't our problem.
    But, you see, it IS.

    Not directly, but anything that happens in the countries around us will, at least slightly, affect the USA.

    Even building a massive border fence on all borders wouldn't help.

    We would have to have a massive border patrol, combined with multiple layer border fences, radar fences to keep planes out, tunnel prevention methods...
    And not just on the land borders.

    You see where this is going.

    It is completely unreasonable to expect any except a massively expensive border protection system costing trillions to completely block our borders from incursion.

    SOMEONE will always get through.

    IMO, we need to, among other things:
    1. Somehow force/cajole/persuade/help/assist Mexico/any other country which has immigrants trying to illegally enter the USA into improving their own country to the point that their population doesn't want to leave...or at least most don't.
    2. Improve our immigration system to allow more legal immigrants to enter.


    But I really don't know an effective way to deal with the current numbers of illegal immigrants in the USA.

    Edit: I mean...sending them all back sounds good, but would be really hard to implement.

    Sending them back piecemeal as we catch them would help, but with our border as it is, many would return.

    So refer to my 1st numbered point.
    Last edited by The Mark; 01-19-10 at 09:45 PM.
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    Re: Thousands protest sheriff's immigration efforts

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You are mad, and the reason governments clamp down on their people. Can't you find the logical fallacy in your statement? The fact that you wrote this is a clue that you may be politically mad.
    Of course I am.

    I'm pissed off that people their heads up their asses who can't see where they're going are driving the nation over a cliff because their emotions are telling them where to go.

    One critical situation this Autocolonoscopics have created in their little socialist introspective fantasyland is the presence of an alien workforce distorting the markets out of recognition and displacing Americans who are then forced to accepts sub-standard wages because their own elected representatives, their own courts, and their own neighbors are determined to sell them down the river while mouthing moronic platitudes about equality and fairness and need, and calling THEM racist.

    If you're not mad as hell about this, you're not an American.

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