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US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

I don't think it would be all that hard to make the cruise lines allow us to use their facilities, if it came down to it.
There would be an issue with the Takings Clause to be settled after the fact, I would imagine.
 
I don't think it would be all that hard to make the cruise lines allow us to use their facilities, if it came down to it.






I don't either if its been requested. I don't think it has....



Shuffeboard and boat drinks would do the haitians good! :thumbs: ;)
 
There would be an issue with the Takings Clause to be settled after the fact, I would imagine.

I don't think it would be a problem, if the IRS and the Coast Gaurd started asking the cruise lines a buncha hard questions.

I guess make is the wrong word. Persuade would probably be more applicable in this case.
 
I don't either if its been requested. I don't think it has....



Shuffeboard and boat drinks would do the haitians good! :thumbs: ;)

It may not have been. I might have put two and two together and got nine.
 

What with the priority being on getting relief supplies to the people that they know are alive, I'm betting that there be a problem supporting these personel once they arrived in country.

These docs were told to leave because of a lack of security.

Security concerns cause doctors to leave hospital, quake victims - CNN.com

That's probably why the teams aren't being allowed in.
 
it should have been volunteered.




Cruise company to donate sun loungers to Haiti makeshift hospital | World news | The Guardian


John Weis, the company's associate vice president, said emergency food supplies delivered by another cruise liner, Independence of the Seas, on Friday have now been distributed and that more deliveries are planned for the rest of the week.

"We've also gone through the site giving up any extra lounge chairs, bedding and mattresses which are now being used in the makeshift hospital," he said. The hospital opened in a gym in Cap Haitian, 15 miles from Labadee, where thousands of people are said to be arriving to seek shelter, food and water or medical help. Passengers have been divided about whether to disembark and use the resort, which is under armed guard and is leased by Royal Caribbean from the Haitian government.

"Guests have the option of staying onboard if they do not feel comfortable getting off in Labadee, and we have augmented our onboard programmes for those guests," said a spokeswoman. "For the guests that do disembark, they can do so knowing that the net proceeds of their visit to Labadee will be donated to the relief effort."

Another ship is due to arrive today as some observers wondered why the dock was not being given up to aid ships. The company said yesterday that US coastguards have assessed the jetty and decided it could not be used for cargo ships.




again, what more do you expect from them?






Royal Caribbean brings passengers, aid to Labadee


Royal Caribbean International's Independence of the Seas returned to Haiti's undamaged north coast Friday, bringing both passengers and relief supplies.


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/1428360.html
 
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It's kindof irrelevant, since the supplies still have to flown in.





Things have been volunteered.


Royal Caribbean brings passengers, aid to Labadee - Haiti - MiamiHerald.com




Royal Caribbean plans to provide at least $1 million in aid to Haiti, working with nonprofit groups like Food for the Poor, Pan American Development Foundation, and the Solano Foundation, a company foundation in Haiti. Its own Crew Relief Fund is available to more than 200 Haitian crew members.

In addition, the company said all its net revenue from Labadee will be plowed into relief efforts for a period, though it didn't say how long that would be. The company also set up a process for passengers to make donations to Haitian relief efforts by credit card.
 
I know this already, what I am saying is that the Republican currently, was the Whig party. There was the Whig party and the democrat party just two. There have been numerous third parties which have all failed, with the exception of Teddy Roosevelt who left his party in mid term and created the Bull Moose party, which failed and he lost his reelection. So as you can see for yourself there has only been two major parties and which I was referring to. Now your turn for your pearls of wisdom or attempted condescending attitude...



http://flhspatterson.pbworks.com/f/politicalparties[1].htm
 
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No the Republican party was once called the Wiggins party, it wasn't a third party.
Emphasis mine.

I know this already, what I am saying is that the Republican currently, was the Whig party. There was the Whig party and the democrat party just two. There have been numerous third parties which have all failed, with the exception of Teddy Roosevelt who left his party in mid term and created the Bull Moose party, which failed and he lost his reelection. So as you can see for yourself there has only been two major parties and which I was referring to. Now your turn for your pearls of wisdom or attempted condescending attitude...



American Political Parties
Emphasis mine.

First, you couldn't even get the name right. Now, you're telling me that the Whig Party became the Republican Party, which is just plain wrong. The Whig Party ended, some people became Democrats, most became Republicans. The Republican Party existed before the Whigs dissolved. I don't know how much more basic I can make this.

Here, let's see if this works: Republican Party ≠ Whig Party

Seriously, if you can't get this simple stuff, why are you wasting your time on a political debate site?
 
Emphasis mine.

Emphasis mine.

First, you couldn't even get the name right. Now, you're telling me that the Whig Party became the Republican Party, which is just plain wrong. The Whig Party ended, some people became Democrats, most became Republicans. The Republican Party existed before the Whigs dissolved. I don't know how much more basic I can make this.

Here, let's see if this works: Republican Party ≠ Whig Party

Seriously, if you can't get this simple stuff, why are you wasting your time on a political debate site?
Well perhaps we are looking at it through a different lens:
The Republican Party, while it also attracted many anti-slavery Democrats, drew off so many Whigs that they effectively killed the Whig party
The Whig Party
So essentially becoming the republican party, perhaps not rubber stamped as you would like but, non the less most Whigs ended up in the republican party. It all depend how you look at it.

In regards to getting the name wrong it was a more or less a typo after a very long day. Although you got the idea, this isn't a college exam so if your going to nit pick at spelling a typo's you can _______off.
 
I don't get it.

Why is President Obama allowing the war Bush started to continue? Doesn't he realize it's what's making the economy go south?
 
Royal Caribbean ships and others sailed into Labadee through the week, a % of the pax stayed on board and voiced their disgust, the others said things like, "we have been looking forward to this vacation, and nothing is going to spoil it" on a hill nearby American troops set up an aid station, they only had bottled water, one bottle per person, the queue of women and children streched 3mls down the mountain in the blazing sun.

The clean water beach showers worked okay in Labadee, its nice to shower off the salt water before you eat the buffet.
USS Carl Vincent is on location and produce 40,000 gallons of fresh water daily, I wonder if they plan on using this it would be much more efficient than bottled water.
 
Well perhaps we are looking at it through a different lens:
The Republican Party, while it also attracted many anti-slavery Democrats, drew off so many Whigs that they effectively killed the Whig party
The Whig Party
So essentially becoming the republican party, perhaps not rubber stamped as you would like but, non the less most Whigs ended up in the republican party. It all depend how you look at it.

In regards to getting the name wrong it was a more or less a typo after a very long day. Although you got the idea, this isn't a college exam so if your going to nit pick at spelling a typo's you can _______off.
Thus, as I stated up-thread, the Republican Party was once a third party.
 
Thus, as I stated up-thread, the Republican Party was once a third party.
How can that be if the republican party1780s - 1801 existed before the Whig party 1836 - 1850.
 
How can that be if the republican party1780s - 1801 existed before the Whig party 1836 - 1850.
The Republican Party began in 1854. The Whig Party ended in 1856.
 
Python mate, my problem is that 2yrs ago when we visited, although we only stayed 10mins, we sat on our balcony of our suite, eating and drinking whilst the majority of the population lived with hunger, what realy upset us was when we got home we read the UN report on child rape on the Island.

That coupled with the fact that Royal Caribean and Carnival pay their staff slave wages.

A waiter will work 28 days out of every month, from 6am till 10pm for $30 + tips for those 28days.

It also upset us to witness the worst of the ignorant arrogant bad manners of the vast % of the pax, gimme, gimme and not a please or thank you to be heard.

We have never sailed on an American Line again.
Missing Passengers On Cruise Ships - Cruise Ship Missing Passengers - Passengers Overboard On Cruise Ships
 
The Republican Party began in 1854. The Whig Party ended in 1856.
Not according to this link:
American Political Parties
Although there has been two republican parties

The Democratic-Republican Party was founded by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison around 1792.

The American Republican Party was a minor nativist political organization that was launched in New York in June 1843
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

Non the less you are also correct in regards to dates and party and I will concede to that but, I am also correct that in regards to third parties failing which history has proven. This country has had many different parties in her history and still do but, just about all are ineffective. Where third parties have become a success is whenit has merged with another party.
 
Python mate, my problem is that 2yrs ago when we visited, although we only stayed 10mins, we sat on our balcony of our suite, eating and drinking whilst the majority of the population lived with hunger, what realy upset us was when we got home we read the UN report on child rape on the Island.

That coupled with the fact that Royal Caribean and Carnival pay their staff slave wages.

A waiter will work 28 days out of every month, from 6am till 10pm for $30 + tips for those 28days.

It also upset us to witness the worst of the ignorant arrogant bad manners of the vast % of the pax, gimme, gimme and not a please or thank you to be heard.

We have never sailed on an American Line again.
Missing Passengers On Cruise Ships - Cruise Ship Missing Passengers - Passengers Overboard On Cruise Ships





So its not thier lack of haitian rescue, but the fact they suck and the people who sail em suck as well?



The only "cruise" have ever done was on a 150 footer private charter.....


Those big boats to me are the antihesis of a vacation.....
 
Well if I am in his position, I have control of the guys on the ground with the guns, and I say deliver the aid as quickly as possible without regard to what the UN or any other organization says. Their lives aren't the ones in the balance.

So how many sick and hungry Haitians are you as the force commander willing to shoot to ensure that the aid gets to where it's going intact? And where exactly are you supposed to deliver it too? And what are you to deliver?

Honestly, you have noooooo idea.
 
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You're never been in the military right? One of the basic premises of the military is to follow orders. If you do your own thing you suffer severe consequences. It's just the way it is.

If every commander went off on their own the whole thing falls apart. That commander is just one single facet of a ****ing huge logistics and engineering operation. His task was to get the supplies to Haiti intact, and to keep the lines of supply open. He has to wait for roads to be cleared, distribution centers to be prioritized and set up, crowd control to be in place, and then to get the right supplies and equipment to where it's needed.

He completed phase one very well. BUt that's just the start.
 
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