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US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

At least the US right are showing their true colours now.... pathetic attitude to human suffering.
The US always has gone above and beyond whatever pittance Europe deigns to pitch in to take care of people in disasters and in the Turd World, and we always will. So kindly take your self-righteous indignation and shove it.
 
So your saying the UK has sat back and done nothing?

I was just being sarcastic which never goes over well on forums, sorry.

To be particular, Switzerland banned minarets and France is in with the burqas. Yet neither of those countries have abstained from offering aid, neither has Britian.
 
What a load of utter bull****.

First off the European emergency aid goes through the individual countries not the EU. There are many reasons for this but the primary is that it is much faster for individual countries to donate what they can than call a meeting to agree on what the EU should do. This is by design btw not some bureaucratic excuse. The individual countries have always wanted to be in full control of what emergency aid they can give.

Secondly .. Europe was unable to deal with Kosovo? How so? Explain.

Because we had to rely on US military strength.It was embarassing.Im not talking about individual countries more that there is no central force that can react in times of crisis.
 
At least the US right are showing their true colours now.... pathetic attitude to human suffering.
Europe will demonstrate their usual selfishness and will send a joke of a contribution to this disaster, if anything at all.
 
Europe will demonstrate their usual selfishness and will send a joke of a contribution to this disaster, if anything at all.

Europe is not a country. . .can't paint them all with one brush. There's everything from Bulgaria to Iceland - a huge, different array of cultures and politics.

Refering to Europe as one unified area is like refering to 'the Americas' in a reference about North and South America politics and drawing conclusions based on that when were different entities with a few threads that bring us together and divide us at the same time (like NATO).

Quite a few European countries are offering support - any support helps so I wouldn't consider any of it to be paltry.
 
About two years ago I was on a Caribbean cruise that took in the resort of Labadee, a part of the Island that is leased from the Haitians by the American Cruise boat industry.

This resort is surrounded by a "Berlin" style wall. We tried to visit the real Haiti but were stopped by rather sinister men with dark glasses and guns.

Sanitized Haitians were let in to provide entertainment, work in gift shops and serve at the buffet ect.

The stench of hypocrisy was to much for us, we left on the next tender.

The worst comment I heard that night on the ship, was how passengers had used food from the buffet to buy artifacts from the locals. Some were proudly showing off their souvenirs.

The cruise ships have visited the Island right through this disaster, they have taken additional supplies to give as aid.

I wonder how many of the Pax, as they fill there stomachs at the buffet think about what is going on on the other side of the wall.

Some of the aid that the Cruise industry has provided is old crew uniforms, old broken furniture ect, it costs less to dump this in Hiati than to dispose of it in Miami.
 
I was just being sarcastic which never goes over well on forums, sorry.

To be particular, Switzerland banned minarets and France is in with the burqas. Yet neither of those countries have abstained from offering aid, neither has Britian.

The Brits have provided aid.
 
Queues the song for Team America: World Police. What ever happened to Green Peace and taking free volunteers?
 
Queues the song for Team America: World Police. What ever happened to Green Peace and taking free volunteers?

I dont think Green Peace would stand much of a chance against gangs of looters wielding machetes.
 
I was just being sarcastic which never goes over well on forums, sorry.

To be particular, Switzerland banned minarets and France is in with the burqas. Yet neither of those countries have abstained from offering aid, neither has Britian.

Use the rolling eyes smilie. It means sarcasm.
 
About two years ago I was on a Caribbean cruise that took in the resort of Labadee, a part of the Island that is leased from the Haitians by the American Cruise boat industry.

This resort is surrounded by a "Berlin" style wall. We tried to visit the real Haiti but were stopped by rather sinister men with dark glasses and guns.

Sanitized Haitians were let in to provide entertainment, work in gift shops and serve at the buffet ect.

The stench of hypocrisy was to much for us, we left on the next tender.

The worst comment I heard that night on the ship, was how passengers had used food from the buffet to buy artifacts from the locals. Some were proudly showing off their souvenirs.

The cruise ships have visited the Island right through this disaster, they have taken additional supplies to give as aid.

I wonder how many of the Pax, as they fill there stomachs at the buffet think about what is going on on the other side of the wall.

Some of the aid that the Cruise industry has provided is old crew uniforms, old broken furniture ect, it costs less to dump this in Hiati than to dispose of it in Miami.

America reminds me of the decline of the Roman Empire. Ie, Nero fiddling while Rome burned. We are in some deep poo but I am sure not too many football fans will miss the play off, while stuffing their fat asses with doritos this week.:shock:
 
I think it's BS. The rest of the world will just forget about our good will, like they've always done.

Why does it matter if the rest of the world forgets our good will? We do good will because we find responsibility in helping rebuild places that are destroyed by natural disasters, as the international community helped during Katrina.

The Haitian people who are helped by the US men and women will not forget. They are going to sift through the destruction and then rebuild their capital city. The only way for us to understand the symbolism of what occurred, with Port-au-Prince being struck, is to imagine Washington, D.C. in a similar circumstance.

The Charity of the United States, thru NGOS, citizens, and troops, is unprecedented. To be honest, I was not keeping up with the news this week and this disaster totally slipped by without me hearing about it until I heard a call that a local NGO already left for Haiti. There's no delay, ever.
 
Why does it matter if the rest of the world forgets our good will? We do good will because we find responsibility in helping rebuild places that are destroyed by natural disasters, as the international community helped during Katrina.

Oh, so we're doing "the right thing"? How's Darfur doing, by the way?
 
If I may chime in. Personally I don't think we should be investing money in Haiti. We have more needs at home in the states. Money going to Haiti could be used going toward domestic Oil & Gas drilling on land that pumps money in the local markets where it happens. Also we have new military weapons systems that need funded as well as spare parts for the soldiers weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan. Money going toward Haiti could be used for Full Body Screener Machines in the Airports. This time let the other U.N. or other countries participate this time. We have obligations far greater than Haiti or its people. The War on Terror and killing the enemy is priority one.
 
Oh, so we're doing "the right thing"? How's Darfur doing, by the way?

I wasn't aware that Darfur was in Haiti. Did it get hit by a earthquake as well?

Is my Internets conflicted?
 
If I may chime in. Personally I don't think we should be investing money in Haiti. We have more needs at home in the states. Money going to Haiti could be used going toward domestic Oil & Gas drilling on land that pumps money in the local markets where it happens. Also we have new military weapons systems that need funded as well as spare parts for the soldiers weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan. Money going toward Haiti could be used for Full Body Screener Machines in the Airports. This time let the other U.N. or other countries participate this time. We have obligations far greater than Haiti or its people. The War on Terror and killing the enemy is priority one.

Wow, do I ever disagree with that but thanks for your service to our country, anyway.;)
 
I wasn't aware that Darfur was in Haiti. Did it get hit by a earthquake as well?

Is my Internets conflicted?

Don't be obtuse. If we're so concerned with doing the right thing, as so many have claimed, then why are we ignoring the situation in Darfur? Does the "right thing" only entail helping countries that are hit by earthquakes?
 
Don't be obtuse. If we're so concerned with doing the right thing, as so many have claimed, then why are we ignoring the situation in Darfur? Does the "right thing" only entail helping countries that are hit by earthquakes?
Obama doesn't care about blacks in Africa.
 
Don't be obtuse. If we're so concerned with doing the right thing, as so many have claimed, then why are we ignoring the situation in Darfur? Does the "right thing" only entail helping countries that are hit by earthquakes?

Don't be acute.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by "ignoring the situation in Darfur", are you honestly suggesting that there is no one helping Darfur?

You are picking to very different instances and you are trying to imply that in the name of our lack of action in Darfur, we should not send help to Haiti?

I agree we should increase help to Darfur, but the very issue of how is a problem. The Haitian issue is quite simple, as we probably won't be caught in any sort of cross-fire between the belligerents (the Earthquake and Haitians). If we provide suitable aide to the Haitians, then I don't expect that the Earthquake is going to try and raid the supplies and use it for it's own means.

Darfur, dans La main de l'autre, cannot be solved by flying helicopters over and throwing supplies down to the refugees, as one side is going to kill the refugees for the supplies. It cannot be solved through N.G.Os like Samaritans Purse that constructions stable compounds for those in Southern Sudan, as one side is going to use these as barracks in the war. It cannot be solved by constantly building and repairing wells, as it creates a reliance on the builder.

These, with the exception of the last one, can and will work in Haiti.

The issue in Sudan is political, and we already know that political charity or political reparations are oxymoron, especially when the issue is so embedded in the culture.

Sure, you are going to re-post and tell me that the "right thing" is what we consider the "easiest right thing". Absolutely true, sadly enough.

I don't know how to stop sectarian violence, but I do know how to move rubble.
Some problems are beyond the reaches of charity.
 
Oh stop that crap. If you want to discuss the realities of Bosnia and Kosovo then start a thread about it. But stop promoting that revisionist crap.....

Revision? BS.

My post to you was in reaction to your partisan global Leftist garbage about the American Right and you complain about people turning things into politics?

Haiti is on our side of the world. It is our "responsibility" to react and lead efforts. You are not needed. Bosnia and Kosovo was not just on yoour side of the world, but in your own region and it took America to lead both missions. Clinton pulled NATO into Bosnia and kicked out the UN. Over 70 percent of the sorties over Kosovo were American jets. Why is that? Why is it that with all the black and white truth of this people like you choose to accuse others of revision as if the entire world is blind and there is some massive secret you can't let out?

Now that superstar is in the White House the anti-American global Left have chosen to fine tune their hate towards the "Right" (even as your kind criticize Obama for lying to you as if he was supposed to be your President.) You accuse the Right of not caring about human suffering. Yet seem to ignore the tsunami of Indonesia while Bush was in the White House. You also seem to ignore the fact that black Africans sufferred greatly while Clinton was in the White House (white Europeans got coddled though). Of course, the fact that thousands of troops and non-troops already in and heading to Haiti being full of people from the Right and Left seem to go dismissed as well to your kind. This new anti-America attitide yourself, Zeebra, and others are trying to portray as just being a "Right" thing will not work.

Start leading efforts or shut the **** up. That's my opinion.
 
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So you are saying that just because the US is so giving during times of disaster that we are not allowed to be critical of parts of US policy around the world? :roll:


I believe what he is stating is that Europe's hypocracy today won't change Europe's identity no matter how hard people like you try. Until you stand up and actually lead something your opinions don't matter. But speaking of foriegn policy complaints, are you aware that France is the leading arms dealer for the continent of Africa? That African warlords and thugs slaughter with French made weaponry? How much criticism do you receive from Americans over this? How much hypocritical BS is vomited forth from us? But keep on having issue with America. Keep on running your mouths and pretending that your opinions matter. Keep that anti-Americanism media of yours thriving. Keep that ignorant European focus across the Atlantic towards "America the evil."
 
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