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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    So how many sick and hungry Haitians are you as the force commander willing to shoot to ensure that the aid gets to where it's going intact? And where exactly are you supposed to deliver it too? And what are you to deliver?

    Honestly, you have noooooo idea.
    As many as I have to, to insure the safety and security of the goods and the people that need them.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

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    As many as I have to, to insure the safety and security of the goods and the people that need them.
    Including the ones you just shot?

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Including the ones you just shot?
    Looters and agitators don't count. If left to their own devices, they'll end up killing even more people, both directly and indirectly.

    Not shooting looters and trouble makers is a bad idea. We saw it in New Orleans and we saw it in Iraq.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Looters and agitators don't count. If left to their own devices, they'll end up killing even more people, both directly and indirectly.

    Not shooting looters and trouble makers is a bad idea. We saw it in New Orleans and we saw it in Iraq.
    Yes, and you ended up with an insurgency. Have you answered the second part of the question about what to bring and where to bring it too?

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Yes, and you ended up with an insurgency. Have you answered the second part of the question about what to bring and where to bring it too?
    Thank you for illustrating my point.

    As to the second part, you deliver the supplies anyhwere there are people who need them and, at this point, you bring food and water.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thank you for illustrating my point.
    That it took 6 years, cost trillions and got thousands of your service people killed? That it took years to get more than an hour or two of electricity to Bagdad?


    You are welcome.

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    As to the second part, you deliver the supplies anyhwere there are people who need them and, at this point, you bring food and water.
    Rather simplistic view.
    The more correct answer is:
    1. You bring it to the least effected or closest area of the city. (aftershocks and all of that.)
    2. You bring engineering equipment, medical supplies and staff, water. water purification equipment and yes food. (To clear the roads, treat the wounded supply water, and finally food.)

    And only once the road is clear for trucks, and you have secured a resupply route to that point.

    Its SOP for any relief operation.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    19 troops died trying to arrest a local warlord. They weren't handing out food.
    The point of icing the warlord was to get him out of the way so they could hand out food.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    That it took 6 years, cost trillions and got thousands of your service people killed? That it took years to get more than an hour or two of electricity to Bagdad?


    You are welcome.



    Rather simplistic view.
    The more correct answer is:
    1. You bring it to the least effected or closest area of the city. (aftershocks and all of that.)
    2. You bring engineering equipment, medical supplies and staff, water. water purification equipment and yes food. (To clear the roads, treat the wounded supply water, and finally food.)

    And only once the road is clear for trucks, and you have secured a resupply route to that point.

    Its SOP for any relief operation.
    Don't forget the light machine guns.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    That it took 6 years, cost trillions and got thousands of your service people killed? That it took years to get more than an hour or two of electricity to Bagdad?
    Not, that if we had acted decisively in the early hours of the occupation of Baghdad, things would have gotten better, sooner.


    Rather simplistic view.
    The more correct answer is:
    1. You bring it to the least effected or closest area of the city. (aftershocks and all of that.)
    2. You bring engineering equipment, medical supplies and staff, water. water purification equipment and yes food. (To clear the roads, treat the wounded supply water, and finally food.)

    And only once the road is clear for trucks, and you have secured a resupply route to that point.

    Its SOP for any relief operation.
    If that's SOP for any relief op, then it's apparent why most relief ops are total cluster ****s.

    How stupid is it to bring water to thirsty and starving people...last?!?

    That explains alot, thanks for the info.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    The point of icing the warlord was to get him out of the way so they could hand out food.
    Because everyone knows that warlords hate food. Can't wait till a volcano blows up in Washington state so our war troops and hired mercs can enforce their morals on me with the barrel of a gun.
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