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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well they are helicoptering supplies to different areas already. The airport apparently is not the best, and I think they're doing pretty good for only 5 days. The commander is probably doing the right thing.
    If I were to do something different, I would have conducted massive airlifts and airdrops of supplies all over the city vice trying to stage supplies at the airport and distribute them from that one central point. The objective being, to put such a large amount of supplies on the ground, the citizens would be too busy eating and drinking to start a riot.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    To answer your question: I haven't heard any cries from leftists or rightists condemning capitalist stormtroopers. I haven't heard anybody blaming it on gwb, either. In fact he and Clinton have teamed up to help them.

    Why are you using this tragic disaster to play partisan politics? Shame on you.
    Because the left regularly ****s on our troops, comparing them to Nazis, accusing them of terrorizing woman and children in the dead of night, but somehow can swallow all this when they want to show how humanitarian they are. BTW, there are more faithbased orgs down there doing more than all liberal attempts put together for a long time before the quake. I also remember lib hammering GWB for supporting faith-based initiatives that are far more efficient and quiet about their charitable operations. They haven't been on the news for years, including Pat Robertson's organization, but they've been helping these folks all along.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If I were to do something different, I would have conducted massive airlifts and airdrops of supplies all over the city vice trying to stage supplies at the airport and distribute them from that one central point. The objective being, to put such a large amount of supplies on the ground, the citizens would be too busy eating and drinking to start a riot.
    Well I can't talk to that, because I don't know the possibility of that. There may be limits on what you're suggesting. A cental point, given supplies coming in from all over the world, may be the only viable solution.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Because the left regularly ****s on our troops, comparing them to Nazis, accusing them of terrorizing woman and children in the dead of night, but somehow can swallow all this when they want to show how humanitarian they are. BTW, there are more faithbased orgs down there doing more than all liberal attempts put together for a long time before the quake. I also remember lib hammering GWB for supporting faith-based initiatives that are far more efficient and quiet about their charitable operations. They haven't been on the news for years, including Pat Robertson's organization, but they've been helping these folks all along.
    Thank you. I don't have to say anything. Your own words reveal your your truenature.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well I can't talk to that, because I don't know the possibility of that. There may be limits on what you're suggesting. A cental point, given supplies coming in from all over the world, may be the only viable solution.
    You're right, there may be too many limitations to that plan, however, I think that a sudden, early influx of food and water would not only save lives, but would calm things down so that the supplies coming from the airport could be distributed alot more efficiently.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Thank you. I don't have to say anything. Your own words reveal your your truenature.
    Wow, I'm overcome by your comeback. But the contradiction between your leaning and your name don't hide your true nature.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    In the end, everybody will know what everybody gave and provided just like the Tsunami. I'd say we always give the most and everybody knows it.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    I heard on the news that a UN worker was rescued this morning. We have a friend a block away who works for the UN in all these impoverished places doing studies. He was helping out alot in Haiti but had just come home before the quake. Anyway I left him a message.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Revision? BS.

    My post to you was in reaction to your partisan global Leftist garbage about the American Right and you complain about people turning things into politics?
    Yes and you continue in this post.

    Haiti is on our side of the world. It is our "responsibility" to react and lead efforts. You are not needed.
    Okay I guess we should pull out all non American troops and the almost 1 billion dollars the EU and European countries have pledged to Haiti so far...

    Bosnia and Kosovo was not just on yoour side of the world, but in your own region and it took America to lead both missions.
    I see.. America "lead" the missions because America has the military leadership in the organisation that was given the responsibility to deal with it. You arrogance is amazing. America did not even contribute a majority of the troops on the ground for god sake... far from it.

    Clinton pulled NATO into Bosnia and kicked out the UN.
    Revisionist bullcrap. The UN gave NATO the mandate because NATO had the military structure to achieve what was needed as fast as possible. It was still a UN action you arrogant prick. The Russians were there and many other non NATO countries.

    Over 70 percent of the sorties over Kosovo were American jets.
    Why is that?
    And so freaking what lol. You have the largest air force in the alliance lol. 30% of the sorties was by who? French, British and other Nato members. Why do you continue to distort facts in an attempt to prove some sort of superiority over others?

    Why is it that with all the black and white truth of this people like you choose to accuse others of revision as if the entire world is blind and there is some massive secret you can't let out?
    Black and white truth? you dont even know what truth means!

    Now that superstar is in the White House the anti-American global Left have chosen to fine tune their hate towards the "Right" (even as your kind criticize Obama for lying to you as if he was supposed to be your President.) You accuse the Right of not caring about human suffering.
    No you twat. I accuse SOME on the right to not caring about human suffering outside the US. People like Rush Limburger and Pat the Moron Robertson. People who use this disaster to further a domestic political agenda need to be ridiculed for the pathetic excuse for a human being they are.

    Yet seem to ignore the tsunami of Indonesia while Bush was in the White House.
    Hell no. I praised the response then and I still do. There were some issues but that does not take away the fact that the US stepped up regardless.

    You also seem to ignore the fact that black Africans sufferred greatly while Clinton was in the White House (white Europeans got coddled though).
    Black Africans have suffered greatly for the last 2000 years, so freaking what.

    Of course, the fact that thousands of troops and non-troops already in and heading to Haiti being full of people from the Right and Left seem to go dismissed as well to your kind.
    Again you take what I said and make **** up. I have praised everyone heading to Haiti to help, regardless of political colour. I have gone after Rush and his like because of their pathetic attitudes and yet you seem to defend them for some reason..

    This new anti-America attitide yourself, Zeebra, and others are trying to portray as just being a "Right" thing will not work.
    What anti-American attitude.. Rush Limburger and Pat the idiot Robertson ARE NOT the whole of America! The right is NOT the whole of America. The left is NOT the whole of America. Being critical of one or a few people in the US is not being critical of every single American.. get that into your twisted xenophobic mind.

    Start leading efforts or shut the **** up. That's my opinion.
    LOL you are a piece of work. Your lack of knowledge about world affairs is mind boggling. So Europe and the rest of the world does not lead in UN peacekeeping missions? Various international organisations? What has the US actually "lead" over the last few decades? The World Bank.. yea that was a great job there.. Not even the Tusanmi effort was US lead. .. so what has the US lead? Iraq.. your own petty little war?
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    [QUOTE=PeteEU;1058492260I see.. America "lead" the missions because America has the military leadership in the organisation that was given the responsibility to deal with it. You arrogance is amazing. America did not even contribute a majority of the troops on the ground for god sake... far from it.[/quote]

    I'm not going to get into any squabble about how Europe et al should stay out of Haiti assistance. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to oppose that.

    However, the United States took the lead in the Balkans because:

    1) Europe is full of pants-wetting weenies that refused to do it.
    2) Clinton needed an excuse to dominate the American headlines while the Cox Report was fresh.

    It's damn obvious that no US interests were served by intervening in a European mess.

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