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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_by_national_governments_to_t he_2010_Haiti_earthquake]Humanitarian response by national governments to the 2010 Haiti earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    There you go. All of you fighting over who's giving what, where and how much, go through that list country by country and knock yourselves out with the pissing contest.

    I'm just glad everyone is chipping in with as much or as little they're willing or can afford to give.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    The winers of the pissing match, are nothing more than loses , since every ones government is send as much help as the can.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    In my experience, the "right thing" is (and has to be) a matter of convenience. Our resources are limited, which meas we have to pick our battles.

    Despite the moronic accusations that come our way about our "world policeman" identity, we are no where near such a thing. Our first concern is to ourselves then others. Often, a humanitarian issue is in our interests. Often it is not. We have to be able to point out that foriegn people have to accept that they have do for themseleves before we "intervene."

    As far as Darfur, nations like France and China have business to do, which means the UN will never do anything of substance with nay votes coming from the Security Council. It was Bush and Blair that pressured and pushed the UN to even look towards Darfur. And in the end, no one in Europe decided to lead a mission and the UN even dismissed the International Court's decision to bring Bashir up on charges against hunmanity.

    The "right" thing is often a contradictory thing anyway. Today, morality is decided by international law. "Right and wrong" comes down to whether or not the decrepit of the earth can get the UN to legitimize their turned backs. It's also decided in accordance to location. Notice how a UN declared "illegal" act over Kosovo met with minimal criticism from Europeans, but a UN declared "illegal" act over Iraq met with extreme hatred and criticism from the same people? The only consistent is American action to do what is "right" despite the twisted criticisms and pathetic focuses on ulterior motive accusations from those who like to think they are our voice of conscience and morality.

    Helping Haitians is the "right" thing for two reasons. One, they are suffering and two their suffering will float to Florida. Before long, the critics of the world will focus on the second reason alone. And if the UN wasn't involved and Europe turned its back, we would be criticized for our "intervention" as we were in 1993 and 1994, when people like me were deployed into Haiti to deal with their coup.

    "Right and wrong." As long as we keep deciding for the most part what this means, the world will be heading in the correct direction. God help the earth's population across the oceans if we ever take a UN or European attitude about it.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    This is a strong and substantial response by the US. How do you feel about the deployement of another 10,000 US troops in a foriegn country?


    BBC News - US sending 10,000 troops to earthquake-hit Haiti
    Someone has to secure the area. Sending troops is the only way to accomplish that. The United States is the only force in a position to execute that mission. I think it's a grand idea.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    The winers of the pissing match, are nothing more than loses , since every ones government is send as much help as the can.
    Where are the leftist cries of pending oppression by capitalist stormtroopers? Oh yeah, it can't be blamed on GWB.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea right. Why isn't anyone looking to China to sort this mess out?
    Because The United States is the greatest country on the history of the world. Even the USA bashers know that they can't count on anyone but us to get the job done in Haiti.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Where are the leftist cries of pending oppression by capitalist stormtroopers? Oh yeah, it can't be blamed on GWB.
    They're too busy comparing the response to the Haiti crisis to Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I was watching ABC news, and they were talking about how supplies were sitting on an airstrip, waiting for the haiti government, UN, some other world food agency, and US military to coordinate drop off points for the water and other supplies.

    I'm sorry, but if I am a military commander put in charge of the operation, I would say **** my commision and just set the **** up myself and get the supplies to the people. If we are on the scene, we don't need to wait for permission from some bueracrats to save ****ing lives. When I saw the US army general talking about how they had to wait, I wanted to strangle the ****er myself. Get your **** together and do something now. A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.
    I understand your logic and I don't disagree, but if you, as a commander on the ground, go into this half cocked and something goes wrong, someone gets wasted, then the situation could fall into even deeper chaos, possibly never getting straightened out again.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I understand your logic and I don't disagree, but if you, as a commander on the ground, go into this half cocked and something goes wrong, someone gets wasted, then the situation could fall into even deeper chaos, possibly never getting straightened out again.
    Well they are helicoptering supplies to different areas already. The airport apparently is not the best, and I think they're doing pretty good for only 5 days. The commander is probably doing the right thing.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Where are the leftist cries of pending oppression by capitalist stormtroopers? Oh yeah, it can't be blamed on GWB.
    To answer your question: I haven't heard any cries from leftists or rightists condemning capitalist stormtroopers. I haven't heard anybody blaming it on gwb, either. In fact he and Clinton have teamed up to help them.

    Why are you using this tragic disaster to play partisan politics? Shame on you.

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