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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Oh, so we're doing "the right thing"? How's Darfur doing, by the way?
    I wasn't aware that Darfur was in Haiti. Did it get hit by a earthquake as well?

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    If I may chime in. Personally I don't think we should be investing money in Haiti. We have more needs at home in the states. Money going to Haiti could be used going toward domestic Oil & Gas drilling on land that pumps money in the local markets where it happens. Also we have new military weapons systems that need funded as well as spare parts for the soldiers weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan. Money going toward Haiti could be used for Full Body Screener Machines in the Airports. This time let the other U.N. or other countries participate this time. We have obligations far greater than Haiti or its people. The War on Terror and killing the enemy is priority one.
    Wow, do I ever disagree with that but thanks for your service to our country, anyway.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I wasn't aware that Darfur was in Haiti. Did it get hit by a earthquake as well?

    Is my Internets conflicted?
    Don't be obtuse. If we're so concerned with doing the right thing, as so many have claimed, then why are we ignoring the situation in Darfur? Does the "right thing" only entail helping countries that are hit by earthquakes?

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Don't be obtuse. If we're so concerned with doing the right thing, as so many have claimed, then why are we ignoring the situation in Darfur? Does the "right thing" only entail helping countries that are hit by earthquakes?
    Obama doesn't care about blacks in Africa.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Obama doesn't care about blacks in Africa.
    Especially poor ones.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Obama doesn't care about blacks in Africa.
    Yo Coronado, I'm really happy for you, imma let you finish but Kanye West was the best criticizer of presidents for all time.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Don't be obtuse. If we're so concerned with doing the right thing, as so many have claimed, then why are we ignoring the situation in Darfur? Does the "right thing" only entail helping countries that are hit by earthquakes?
    Don't be acute.

    I am not entirely sure what you mean by "ignoring the situation in Darfur", are you honestly suggesting that there is no one helping Darfur?

    You are picking to very different instances and you are trying to imply that in the name of our lack of action in Darfur, we should not send help to Haiti?

    I agree we should increase help to Darfur, but the very issue of how is a problem. The Haitian issue is quite simple, as we probably won't be caught in any sort of cross-fire between the belligerents (the Earthquake and Haitians). If we provide suitable aide to the Haitians, then I don't expect that the Earthquake is going to try and raid the supplies and use it for it's own means.

    Darfur, dans La main de l'autre, cannot be solved by flying helicopters over and throwing supplies down to the refugees, as one side is going to kill the refugees for the supplies. It cannot be solved through N.G.Os like Samaritans Purse that constructions stable compounds for those in Southern Sudan, as one side is going to use these as barracks in the war. It cannot be solved by constantly building and repairing wells, as it creates a reliance on the builder.

    These, with the exception of the last one, can and will work in Haiti.

    The issue in Sudan is political, and we already know that political charity or political reparations are oxymoron, especially when the issue is so embedded in the culture.

    Sure, you are going to re-post and tell me that the "right thing" is what we consider the "easiest right thing". Absolutely true, sadly enough.

    I don't know how to stop sectarian violence, but I do know how to move rubble.
    Some problems are beyond the reaches of charity.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Especially poor ones.


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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Oh stop that crap. If you want to discuss the realities of Bosnia and Kosovo then start a thread about it. But stop promoting that revisionist crap.....
    Revision? BS.

    My post to you was in reaction to your partisan global Leftist garbage about the American Right and you complain about people turning things into politics?

    Haiti is on our side of the world. It is our "responsibility" to react and lead efforts. You are not needed. Bosnia and Kosovo was not just on yoour side of the world, but in your own region and it took America to lead both missions. Clinton pulled NATO into Bosnia and kicked out the UN. Over 70 percent of the sorties over Kosovo were American jets. Why is that? Why is it that with all the black and white truth of this people like you choose to accuse others of revision as if the entire world is blind and there is some massive secret you can't let out?

    Now that superstar is in the White House the anti-American global Left have chosen to fine tune their hate towards the "Right" (even as your kind criticize Obama for lying to you as if he was supposed to be your President.) You accuse the Right of not caring about human suffering. Yet seem to ignore the tsunami of Indonesia while Bush was in the White House. You also seem to ignore the fact that black Africans sufferred greatly while Clinton was in the White House (white Europeans got coddled though). Of course, the fact that thousands of troops and non-troops already in and heading to Haiti being full of people from the Right and Left seem to go dismissed as well to your kind. This new anti-America attitide yourself, Zeebra, and others are trying to portray as just being a "Right" thing will not work.

    Start leading efforts or shut the **** up. That's my opinion.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are saying that just because the US is so giving during times of disaster that we are not allowed to be critical of parts of US policy around the world?

    I believe what he is stating is that Europe's hypocracy today won't change Europe's identity no matter how hard people like you try. Until you stand up and actually lead something your opinions don't matter. But speaking of foriegn policy complaints, are you aware that France is the leading arms dealer for the continent of Africa? That African warlords and thugs slaughter with French made weaponry? How much criticism do you receive from Americans over this? How much hypocritical BS is vomited forth from us? But keep on having issue with America. Keep on running your mouths and pretending that your opinions matter. Keep that anti-Americanism media of yours thriving. Keep that ignorant European focus across the Atlantic towards "America the evil."

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