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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The US response to this as I have stated elsewhere is highly commendable...
    Hell, you've already forgotten that you're arguing with Americans. You know, "the US"....

    Anyway, we don't need you to pat us on the head. I'm well aware of how commendable OUR response has been to virtually every world crisis in the past 100 years, including this one.

    ...just like the rest of the world.
    Laughable. The European Union pledged 4.3 million dollars. France sent 400 people. What did your beloved country send, Pete?

    The politicians standing together in Haiti's time of need is commendable. Bush, Clinton, Obama, both sides of congress (for the most part) side by side, working to help the people of Haiti..kudos. The US military is as always there to help, Kudos. The UN and the rest of the world, there as fast as they can, spending millions in aid as best they can.. Kudos. I commend the Brits who phoned in over 4 million dollars in under 24 hours in aid, I commend the Americans who did the same and got 10 million dollars. I commend all organisations on the ground and around the world working to help the people of Haiti in their hour of need.

    We should leave the political bs to after the disaster not during for god sake. It is times like this we need to stand together, just as we did on 9/11, Katrina, the Tusnami, and other disasters around the world. There will be plenty of time for the usual political crap later on.

    So I say again.. conservatives and others who use this disaster at its hight or just after it happened, in political attacks are pathetic worthless human beings with no heart.
    Actually, self-righteous, hypocritical Europeans are pathetic, worthless human beings with no heart. American conservatives and American liberals, on the other hand, are generous and compassionate.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea. We show our true colors by sending ten thousand troops and a hundred million dollars, like we always do, even though we know swell individuals such as yourself will continue to crap all over America's head.
    So you are saying that just because the US is so giving during times of disaster that we are not allowed to be critical of parts of US policy around the world?

    And don't even get me started on the disparity between private donations. We provide enough of those to match the gross contribution of the rest of the world.
    Start a thread about this and we can debate it.

    So, Petey, how do you feel about the EU's donation of 4.3 million dollars? Maybe the Haitians can repave a few roads with that princely sum...
    I feel just fine about it as I know more will come since it is initial aid. Could have it been 100 million or a billion? Sure, but without knowing what is needed and where it is needed it would be kinda a waste of money. I fully expect the EU to donate massive amounts of aid and money as they always do.. they are the biggest governmental aid giver in the world after all.

    Plus I also know that the EU is not the only one donating from Europe.

    And remember this is only money donations by governments. On top of that we have men and material donations. I know for a fact that European specialists in finding people in rubble were some of the first on the ground there.

    We are still early in the disaster and there is lots to do and this political crap on US vs the world is pathetic and you guys are continuing to bring it up for some reason.. there is time for that later on if you want, but now is not the time if you ask me.. just as it was not the time when 9/11 happened and other disasters.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Hell, you've already forgotten that you're arguing with Americans. You know, "the US"....
    No I am arguing with right wing twits that are using a human catastrophe for partisan political gain. Yes I am angry over your attitude. As I sated, the US is not right wing America..

    Anyway, we don't need you to pat us on the head. I'm well aware of how commendable OUR response has been to virtually every world crisis in the past 100 years, including this one.
    Funny.. so are you against what Rush and Patterson and the other halfwitts on the right have been saying?

    Laughable. The European Union pledged 4.3 million dollars. France sent 400 people. What did your beloved country send, Pete?
    Laughable? Since when is sending aid laughable? And you do know that France is not exactly right next to Haiti right, unlike the US?

    As I stated, yes the EU Commission has pledged so far 4.3 million dollars and so what? It is initial aid and more will come when the situation becomes more clear.

    As for my own country, according to what I understand they have donated a full UN base camp module among other things. In fact they have donated quite a bit as usual. Over 5 million dollars so far from the state as far as I can see.. that is so far 1 dollar per citizen.... and that is just a start.

    Actually, self-righteous, hypocritical Europeans are pathetic, worthless human beings with no heart. American conservatives and American liberals, on the other hand, are generous and compassionate.
    I am not the one using this disaster in a domestic political fight you arrogant heartless twit. I am not the one using this as another motive to attack the rest of the world and promote your own supposed superiority. You are the one acting like the stereotypical arrogant twit... one would almost think that you were French.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are saying that just because the US is so giving during times of disaster that we are not allowed to be critical of parts of US policy around the world?
    I could care less what you do, Petey. I'm talking to Americans right now.

    My message? Stop caring about what guys like you think.

    Start a thread about this and we can debate it.
    What's there to debate? We donate more than anyone else, period.

    I feel just fine about it as I know more will come since it is initial aid. Could have it been 100 million or a billion? Sure, but without knowing what is needed and where it is needed it would be kinda a waste of money.
    You feel just fine about the EU (GDP 14.91 trillion) sending 4.3 million dollars? Why am I not surprised?

    I fully expect the EU to donate massive amounts of aid and money as they always do.. they are the biggest governmental aid giver in the world after all.
    Obviously, the EU is practically an entire continent. As far as countries are concerned, the United States takes the cake.

    Plus I also know that the EU is not the only one donating from Europe.

    And remember this is only money donations by governments. On top of that we have men and material donations. I know for a fact that European specialists in finding people in rubble were some of the first on the ground there.

    We are still early in the disaster and there is lots to do and this political crap on US vs the world is pathetic and you guys are continuing to bring it up for some reason.. there is time for that later on if you want, but now is not the time if you ask me.. just as it was not the time when 9/11 happened and other disasters.
    I wonder what you'd be saying if the US sent 4.3 million dollars and 400 troops.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    The US is the major relief contributor, but many nations are pledging money and/or sending supplies/personnel.

    Israel has dispatched two cargo aircraft crammed with medical supplies and a team of 220 medical personnel (40 doctors, 44 nurses, medical techs). They are setting up a field hospital on the devastated island. One Israeli (Sharona Elsaieh) is still missing following the quake and is feared to be among the dead.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I definitely think we should help them as much as we are able, regardless if they remember or not. I just wish our government would do it for the right reasons. I'm sick of trying to impress some elitist cabal of European cunts.
    well it has impressed this elitist European **** for one, thank you Mr Obama, we will remember you and your peoples noble deed.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The US is the major relief contributor, but many nations are pledging money and/or sending supplies/personnel.

    Israel has dispatched two cargo aircraft crammed with medical supplies and a team of 220 medical personnel (40 doctors, 44 nurses, medical techs). They are setting up a field hospital on the devastated island. One Israeli (Sharona Elsaieh) is still missing following the quake and is feared to be among the dead.
    Sharona was found yesterday, Tash, and is no longer in danger.
    There are no further known Israeli citizens over there.

    Doesn't stop the IDF from establishing a field hospital and offering aid to the wounded, though.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I could care less what you do, Petey. I'm talking to Americans right now.

    My message? Stop caring about what guys like you think.
    Eh? So because I am not an American then I am not allowed to comment on an issue in Haiti because the US is involved there? Because I am not an American then I am not allowed to comment about bonehead morons American's like Limburger and Pat the idiot Robertson? Are you seriously defending those to twitts? Next you will be defending Rev. White just because I am critical of him and a non American.. pathetic arrogant attitude you have.

    What's there to debate? We donate more than anyone else, period.
    Donate through what? Government.. no.. private.. maybe, highly debatable since much of private US donations go to local US things and not abroad. As I said, start a thread and we can debate it.

    You feel just fine about the EU (GDP 14.91 trillion) sending 4.3 million dollars? Why am I not surprised?
    And what do you not understand about initial donation? And you dont understand how the EU aid works. The EU as an organisation donates relatively little. The donations are still national given often through EU coordination to the organisations in need. Plus one has to be careful on what "aid" means.. there are different forms and the statistics does no always account for this.

    Obviously, the EU is practically an entire continent. As far as countries are concerned, the United States takes the cake.
    Total money yes, per captia.. hell no.. you are the WORST donor out there per capita and that is the only way to compare nations. As I said, start a thread instead of derailing this thread since it is clearly not going your way.

    I wonder what you'd be saying if the US sent 4.3 million dollars and 400 troops.
    Forget it.. debating with you and your cohorts is like talking to a wall.. in fact I would get more out of a wall these days since you are so blinded by partisanship right wing nationalism.

    I have said my peace, if you want to discuss aid then start a thread.
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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No I am arguing with right wing twits that are using a human catastrophe for partisan political gain. Yes I am angry over your attitude. As I sated, the US is not right wing America..
    Newsflash! "Right-wingers" are Americans, too, and, no, I'm not a right-winger.

    Funny.. so are you against what Rush and Patterson and the other halfwitts on the right have been saying?
    I'm an agnostic pro-choicer who favors drug and prostitution legalization and gay marriage. What do you think?

    Laughable? Since when is sending aid laughable?
    Actually, you're right. There's nothing funny about how little aid the EU sent. It's just sad.

    And you do know that France is not exactly right next to Haiti right, unlike the US?
    There's these things, they're called boats and planes. I think France has some...

    As I stated, yes the EU Commission has pledged so far 4.3 million dollars and so what? It is initial aid and more will come when the situation becomes more clear.
    There was a devastating earthquake that destroyed Haiti's capital city and killed multiple thousands of people. They are largely without shelter, food, medicine, and clean water.

    Is that clear enough for you?

    As for my own country, according to what I understand they have donated a full UN base camp module...
    Don't forget to fill it up with air.

    In fact they have donated quite a bit as usual. Over 5 million dollars so far from the state as far as I can see.. that is so far 1 dollar per citizen.... and that is just a start.
    Got a link?

    I am not the one using this disaster in a domestic political fight you arrogant heartless twit. I am not the one using this as another motive to attack the rest of the world and promote your own supposed superiority. You are the one acting like the stereotypical arrogant twit... one would almost think that you were French.
    I've been to a disaster site, Petey. Spent nearly a week in the scorching Philippine sun digging for dead bodies and distributing supplies to survivors. My humanitarian credentials are well established, so there's no need for you to pretend I'm a heartless SOB.

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    Re: US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The US is the major relief contributor, but many nations are pledging money and/or sending supplies/personnel.

    Israel has dispatched two cargo aircraft crammed with medical supplies and a team of 220 medical personnel (40 doctors, 44 nurses, medical techs). They are setting up a field hospital on the devastated island. One Israeli (Sharona Elsaieh) is still missing following the quake and is feared to be among the dead.
    Kudos..

    Denmark still has one missing over there as far as I know but that aint stopping us from sending equipment, money and people there to help.
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