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    Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    A big reason why the government is inefficient and ineffective is because Washington has outdated technology, with federal workers having better computers at home than in the office.

    This startling admission came Thursday from Peter Orszag, who manages the federal bureaucracy for President Barack Obama.
    Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government - The Hill's Hillicon Valley

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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    Bush's fault.

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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    I think he is incorrect.

    It is massive bureaucracy, slow to change by default, which is the issue here.

    The computers may be old, but that is not the fault of the computersÖItís the fault of those who didnít update them.
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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    Yep I agree.

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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    He didn't blame computer for ineffective government. He said it was one of the reasons. Not the only reason.

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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    I would like to know exactly what is he talking about.
    How old are these computers, etc... ?

    The argument could be made that as soon as they buy something new it is already outdated.

    Which doesn't really mean that they are ineffective.

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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    I would like to know exactly what is he talking about.
    How old are these computers, etc... ?

    The argument could be made that as soon as they buy something new it is already outdated.

    Which doesn't really mean that they are ineffective.
    Obama Staff Arrives to White House Stuck in Dark Ages of Technology

    One member of the White House new-media team came to work on Tuesday, right after the swearing-in ceremony, only to discover that it was impossible to know which programs could be updated, or even which computers could be used for which purposes. The team members, accustomed to working on Macintoshes, found computers outfitted with six-year-old versions of Microsoft software. Laptops were scarce, assigned to only a few people in the West Wing.
    In computer terms that is ancient if the computers are as old as the software and it usually means the computers are even older than the software since implementation of new gear in business and government is like pulling teeth often.

    But I would also love to see what kind of gear and systems the US government and other governments use.. they are often years if not decades behind the rest of us when it comes to IT.
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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Obama Staff Arrives to White House Stuck in Dark Ages of Technology



    In computer terms that is ancient if the computers are as old as the software and it usually means the computers are even older than the software since implementation of new gear in business and government is like pulling teeth often.

    But I would also love to see what kind of gear and systems the US government and other governments use.. they are often years if not decades behind the rest of us when it comes to IT.


    They had to deal with six year old Office software????? OH NOES!!!!

    Before Office 2007, which was quite buggy, the next newest version was Office 2003. I still use Office 2003 on one of my computers, so the idea that "six year old Office" is somehow holding the government back is absurd.
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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    The team members, accustomed to working on Macintoshes, ...
    That was clearly their fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    In computer terms that is ancient if the computers are as old as the software and it usually means the computers are even older than the software since implementation of new gear in business and government is like pulling teeth often.

    But I would also love to see what kind of gear and systems the US government and other governments use.. they are often years if not decades behind the rest of us when it comes to IT.
    After a precursory google search it doesn't appear as if the computer were that old in the Capital.

    Which of course has nothing to do with the OP.

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    Re: Budget director blames old computers for ineffective government

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post


    They had to deal with six year old Office software????? OH NOES!!!!

    Before Office 2007, which was quite buggy, the next newest version was Office 2003. I still use Office 2003 on one of my computers, so the idea that "six year old Office" is somehow holding the government back is absurd.
    Not my point. Point is to know what the software is installed on. The smaller and older the machine the less effectual you are using the software like office 2003. The smaller and older the machine means that you cant use newer software on them effectively because they are simply not powerful enough. How much ram does these machines have? There are a lot of factors on the hardware that can hurt productivity. I have a 6 year old laptop here beside me. It runs Windows XP and Office 2003. It has only 512 mb ram, and that was standard back then. I can run office just fine, as long as I dont start up too much. If I have excel and a few word documents running then you can clearly feel the computer getting slow. Yes this laptop is outdated and lowers my productivity when I use it compared to this machine I am sitting on at the moment.

    I aint defending this guys comments but it is undeniable that having outdated IT infrastructure does hurt productivity. Now the question is how "outdated" is defined... and for me at least a 6+ year old PC is outdated.
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