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Bill requires emergency birth control access

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Bill requires emergency birth control access - Air Force News, news from Iraq - Air Force Times

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Emergency contraceptives would be made available at all military hospitals and clinics under bipartisan Senate legislation sponsored by Sens. Al Franken, D-Minn., and Olympia Snowe, R-Maine.

The Compassionate Care for Servicewomen Act would add emergency contraceptives to the core list of medications that must be stocked by every military health care facility.

Emergency contraceptives, including what are commonly called “morning-after pills,” are not required to be stocked on military bases but are part of the pharmacy stock at some locations.

A statement issued by Franken’s office says emergency contraception is “widely available” at private-sector pharmacies throughout the U.S. but “is not always available to servicewomen … particularly those serving overseas.”

The bill also would mandate that patients not be required to get prior approval to receive emergency contraceptives.

As long as women are serving in the military, I support this, especially because a pregnant woman means a discharged woman, and one less soldier on the lines doing their job. This legislature acknowledges the reality that although sexual activities aren't allowed in the military, they can and do happen.
 
Any woman that isn't responsible and disciplined enough to avoid getting knocked up, either through protection, or abstanance doesn't need to be in the service to begin with.
 
Any woman that isn't responsible and disciplined enough to avoid getting knocked up, either through protection, or abstanance doesn't need to be in the service to begin with.

Oh please, accidents happen.....;)
If I had to face death every day, I'd be getting some uh...woman if I could......;)
I don't like the double standard you present in this case.....:roll:
 
Oh please, accidents happen.....;)
If I had to face death every day, I'd be getting some uh...woman if I could......;)
I don't like the double standard you present in this case.....:roll:

Ok, discipline the sperm doner, as well. Cool?

The bottom line, is that the military is a place that has rules and those rules aren't flexible. They are in place for a reason. When we start arbitrarily bending those rules to suit the needs of a few undisciplined soldiers who aren't mature enough to follow those rules, then we endager the lives of hundreds of thousands of other soldiers. I doubt their is anyone that joins the service, totally unaware that there are rules and that there are serious concequences to breaking those rules.
 
Ok, discipline the sperm doner, as well. Cool?

The bottom line, is that the military is a place that has rules and those rules aren't flexible. They are in place for a reason. When we start arbitrarily bending those rules to suit the needs of a few undisciplined soldiers who aren't mature enough to follow those rules, then we endager the lives of hundreds of thousands of other soldiers. I doubt their is anyone that joins the service, totally unaware that there are rules and that there are serious concequences to breaking those rules.

If we could only get the generals to learn that.....:roll:
The rules are flexible or should I say, selectively enforced.....
I'd rather see them take a couple pills & return to duty than take up space in the stockade...
At some point one must employ common sense over religious ideals....
Admit it: You are 'pro life' & you are willing to use 'a few undisciplined soldiers' to further your agenda....;)
 
. . .As long as women are serving in the military, I support this, especially because a pregnant woman means a discharged woman, and one less soldier on the lines doing their job. This legislature acknowledges the reality that although sexual activities aren't allowed in the military, they can and do happen.


Your misconceptions about Military Life are manifold! Guess what? There are many thousands of mothers on active duty, in the Guard and Reserve.

Futher, the Milatary is not a monastic order, which bans sexual activity.
 
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If we could only get the generals to learn that.....:roll:
The rules are flexible or should I say, selectively enforced.....

I never selectively enforced the regulations when I was in the service. When I saw it happened, I immediately made issue of the situation. If I can't depend on a soldier to follow a simple rule, then I can't depend on that soldier to do his/her job on the battlefield.

I'd rather see them take a couple pills & return to duty than take up space in the stockade...

Well, hell, while we're at it, let's stop enforcing the regulations against self inflicted wounds, too. Right?

At some point one must employ common sense over religious ideals....
Admit it: You are 'pro life' & you are willing to use 'a few undisciplined soldiers' to further your agenda....

You can't imagine how wrong you are. My agenda would be more aligned with gender segregated units. Especially for the Army and Marine Corps.
 
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Any woman that isn't responsible and disciplined enough to avoid getting knocked up, either through protection, or abstanance doesn't need to be in the service to begin with.

If they manage to damage government property to that extent, they should be court-martialed and kicked out of the service.
 
I never selectively enforced the regulations when I was in the service. When I saw it happened, I immediately made issue of the situation. If I can't depend on a soldier to follow a simple rule, then I can't depend on that soldier to do his/her job on the battlefield.
Maybe not you personally, but is does happen all the time....
Well, hell, while we're at it, let's stop enforcing the regulations against self inflicted wounds, too. Right?
Shooting yourself in the foot is not the same as getting knocked up....

You can't imagine how wrong you are. My agenda would be more aligned with gender segregated units. Especially for the Army and Marine Corps.

Ok, that I can agree with, especially in combat units, but as long as women are in the armed forces, you will get pregnancies......
& as someone pointed out, sex is not strictly forbidden.......;)
 
If they manage to damage government property to that extent, they should be court-martialed and kicked out of the service.

If, through their own concious actions, create a situation where they are unable to perform their duty, then they are in violation of the regulations.

Getting knocked up, while on deployment with a forward unit, falls into that category.
 
Oh please, accidents happen.....;)
If I had to face death every day, I'd be getting some uh...woman if I could......;)
I don't like the double standard you present in this case.....:roll:

No.

Accidents do not happen.

If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, and no woman in the nation's military service should be allowed to destroy her readiness by getting pregnant, then there are things to do and not do to avoid that situation.

Also, since there's no guarantee that the sperm donor is a fellow serviceman and not the captain's nephew, there's no point in making silly charges against the "sperm donor". It's the female's activity that caused the disabling of an expensive peice of government property, it's her responsibility and she has to bear the cost of her incompetence.

There's no excuses, no one reaching military age is unaware of how babies are made. She's responsible and the one thing the military is famous for is making the individual bear his responsibilities themselves. The women need to grow up and learn to take it like a man, if they're going to wear a man's uniform.
 
If, through their own concious actions, create a situation where they are unable to perform their duty, then they are in violation of the regulations.

Getting knocked up, while on deployment with a forward unit, falls into that category.


'zactly, almost. If they're on active duty, anywhere, they're obligated to take care of taxpayer property.
 
Maybe not you personally, but is does happen all the time....

I saw it happen, but I wouldn't say that it's frequent. Perhaps your experience is different from mine.

Shooting yourself in the foot is not the same as getting knocked up....

They're both self inflicted and can prevent a soldier from performing his/her duties. So, they are exactly the same.



but as long as women are in the armed forces, you will get pregnancies......
& as someone pointed out, sex is not strictly forbidden.......;)[/QUOTE]

No, sex isn't forbidden. However, a female getting knocked up, while serving with a deployed unit in a forward position, is.
 
'zactly, almost. If they're on active duty, anywhere, they're obligated to take care of taxpayer property.

Orders, regarding female preganancy usually only applies to deployed units during wartime.
 
Orders, regarding female preganancy usually only applies to deployed units during wartime.

What part of 'emergency birth control' is not sinking in?.....:doh
We are talking morning after pills, not third trimester abortion.....:doh
Anyone who does not agree that it is a prudent course of action, is opposing it on moral or religious grounds....
There can be no other logical explanation.....
So 'fess up......:2razz:
The reason I say this is because with the morning after, you don't know if you are pregnant or not, & they are taken as a precaution....;)
 
Orders, regarding female preganancy usually only applies to deployed units during wartime.

Should not be. A soldier on duty is expected to perform his duties, regardless of where she's at.

If women are claiming they can do the same job as the men, then I expect them to be doing the same job as any man they're replacing, no matter where they are.

They claim they don't want special treatment, so they shouldn't be getting any.
 
What part of 'emergency birth control' is not sinking in?.....:doh
We are talking morning after pills, not third trimester abortion.....:doh
Anyone who does not agree that it is a prudent course of action, is opposing it on moral or religious grounds....
There can be no other logical explanation.....
So 'fess up......:2razz:
The reason I say this is because with the morning after, you don't know if you are pregnant or not, & they are taken as a precaution....;)

Certainly there's other grounds.

Like, the incompetence of the female in getting herself knocked up is a reflection on her professionalism, and an entry in her service record to that effect should be made, with appropriate bearing on her future evaluations and promotion opportunities.
 
Certainly there's other grounds.

Like, the incompetence of the female in getting herself knocked up is a reflection on her professionalism, and an entry in her service record to that effect should be made, with appropriate bearing on her future evaluations and promotion opportunities.

Hogwash & you know it.....;)
As stated before, it is a PRECAUTION, a woman does not neccessarily need to take them, but can as a preventative measure.......;)
You do not have a leg to stand on, I implore you to 'fess up......:)
 
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Should not be. A soldier on duty is expected to perform his duties, regardless of where she's at.

If women are claiming they can do the same job as the men, then I expect them to be doing the same job as any man they're replacing, no matter where they are.

They claim they don't want special treatment, so they shouldn't be getting any.

Does this mean sending them into the field without tampons?.....:shock:
Women have special needs, it's a fact of life & some accomodations will have to be made......;)
 
What part of 'emergency birth control' is not sinking in?.....:doh
We are talking morning after pills, not third trimester abortion.....:doh
Anyone who does not agree that it is a prudent course of action, is opposing it on moral or religious grounds....
There can be no other logical explanation.....
So 'fess up......:2razz:
The reason I say this is because with the morning after, you don't know if you are pregnant or not, & they are taken as a precaution....;)

I know what it is and a female soldier shouldn't need a morning after pill. She should be responsible enough to protect herself, or abstain from sexual activity. She already knows what the rules are. She should be able to abide by them.
 
I know what it is and a female soldier shouldn't need a morning after pill. She should be responsible enough to protect herself, or abstain from sexual activity. She already knows what the rules are. She should be able to abide by them.

You still haven't made your case, & I've explained why....
This approach to bolster your arguement is weak at best.....
Your position is untenable, 'fess up......;)
 
Bill requires emergency birth control access - Air Force News, news from Iraq - Air Force Times



As long as women are serving in the military, I support this, especially because a pregnant woman means a discharged woman, and one less soldier on the lines doing their job. This legislature acknowledges the reality that although sexual activities aren't allowed in the military, they can and do happen.

I'm actually appalled emergency birth-control wasn't already part of the basics stocked at every military medical facility. If they stock condoms, they should also stock the only other item that can be used in case the first one fails.
 
You still haven't made your case, & I've explained why....
This approach to bolster your arguement is weak at best.....
Your position is untenable, 'fess up......;)

So, insisting that a soldier follow the established rules and regulations that he/she is fully aware of isn't a good enough argument?
 
So, insisting that a soldier follow the established rules and regulations that he/she is fully aware of isn't a good enough argument?

Yes, especially when the 'cure' is as simple as eating your MRE....;)
Frankly, I'd be very concened if these 'soldiers' did not find themselves wanting to **** each others to... uh .....a lot....
Or else they are fags.....:)
Which opens another can of ...uh ...
Another story.....:lol:
 
& what's wrong with making new soldiers, I ax you?......:mrgreen:
 
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