Page 10 of 10 FirstFirst ... 8910
Results 91 to 98 of 98

Thread: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

  1. #91
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    07-23-12 @ 03:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    6,763
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    They are similar in many ways and one cannot limit this debate to the MB.
    They are also different in many ways pertinent to the conversation. Al Qaeda can be militarily opposed. MB cannot (with the exception of Hamas).

    And they are both militantly opposed to US presence and Israeli existence.
    MB is not militantly opposed to the US in any locale.

    So, the primary goal...this Islamic Caliphate..is possible with an American supported Jewish State occupying Palestine and Jerusalem...and the United States steaming Strait up the Hormuz of Arabia on a daily basis? I think not.
    Not the full caliphate, but the existing sunni states could certainly fall to MB, especially if they switch to free and fair elections.

    It is MB activities within the US which concern me, and I don't mean them going out and shooting weapons in the woods. It is the access they have to intelligence decision makers that are of concern. The MB organization here in the US reportedly determine course content for domestic intelligence operation training in these government institutions. Who the hell gave them that access???

    And makes insecure the interests and goals of both the MB and al-Qaeda. And if you say these two wars ancillary to either group's primary goals...uhhh yea...ok. I'm sure elections in these two nations and the democratic cries from Iran signal prosperity and a bright future if you're a Sharia Law fan.
    I agree there is some promise in Iraq and a teeny bit in Iran. Afghanistan not so much. Of course, the Shiite leadership in Iraq seems to not care for us much. But the MB is a Sunni thing. One thing is for sure: the stability of the ME has not increased. That was a goal of OIF of course. Let's hope it plays our way with moderates coming to power in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, Yemen, SA, Egypt, Turkey ...

  2. #92
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Who anointed you as master of this forum, Max?

  3. #93
    Professor Charles Martel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Seen
    03-21-10 @ 08:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,668

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    One thing is for sure: the stability of the ME has not increased. That was a goal of OIF of course....
    Stability has not increased?

    Let's take a look at the ME when W takes office. Afghanistan...is wholesale unstable. The Taliban in power and harboring the terrorist group that would unleash the mother of all terror attacks. Al-Qaeda had declared war on us, attacked us all over the world in Yemen, in Saudi Arabia, and had 19 to 21 terrorists sitting in the US waiting to unleash 9-11. Iraq ruled by a completely unstable Saddam Hussein who started wars in each of the last 3 decades. Syria and Iran facilitating terrorists as they do today via Hamas and Hezbollah fighting a proxy war with Israel.

    Today, Saddam Hussein is dead. The international community has united(to a degree) against Iran's nuclear program. Afghanistan has seen the Taliban thrown from power and even though the Taliban still control parts of both Pakistan and Afghanistan, the situation is clearly more stable then it was. The Palestinian issue I think we've solved...the solution of the two state reality, it's just how we get there that remains unsolved.

    I see the ME stabilizing, why do you see otherwise?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

  4. #94
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    07-23-12 @ 03:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    6,763
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    I see the ME stabilizing, why do you see otherwise?
    It has certainly changed, and much for the better. I just wouldn't call it stabilizing. There is still a LOT of unsettled business.

  5. #95
    Professor
    Dirty Harry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    07-01-11 @ 01:48 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    1,390

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Stability has not increased?

    Let's take a look at the ME when W takes office. Afghanistan...is wholesale unstable. The Taliban in power and harboring the terrorist group that would unleash the mother of all terror attacks. Al-Qaeda had declared war on us, attacked us all over the world in Yemen, in Saudi Arabia, and had 19 to 21 terrorists sitting in the US waiting to unleash 9-11. Iraq ruled by a completely unstable Saddam Hussein who started wars in each of the last 3 decades. Syria and Iran facilitating terrorists as they do today via Hamas and Hezbollah fighting a proxy war with Israel.

    Today, Saddam Hussein is dead. The international community has united(to a degree) against Iran's nuclear program. Afghanistan has seen the Taliban thrown from power and even though the Taliban still control parts of both Pakistan and Afghanistan, the situation is clearly more stable then it was. The Palestinian issue I think we've solved...the solution of the two state reality, it's just how we get there that remains unsolved.

    I see the ME stabilizing, why do you see otherwise?
    All George did was spread instability over a wider area. Now Al Qaeda and the Taliban are getting closer to Pakistani nukes. . The only reason full blown civil war hasn't broken out in Iraq is because we still have tropps there. Like it or not Saddam brought stability to Iraq. Not to mention the new corrupt Iraqi government likes Iran better than they like us. Yeah, we are a lot safer now.

  6. #96
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    I once read "The Source" by James Michener. It is a novel about the Six Day War and the history of the area.

    One part in the book that I vividly remember is when some characters in the book were discussing why Israel defeated their enemies so easy.

    I am just para phrasing but it went something like this. ""The reason we defeated them was because their armies and the Arabs were so corrupt that they sold their own weapon and vehicles on their way to the battle."

    I lived in a Muslim country for six months once. A person has to pay a bribe to someone for something like renting an apartment, like I did. You could not even use their postal service to have money sent to you as I unfortunately found out.

    The book starts out with the worship of by the people of a giant rock. As it progresses it is told through the eyes of an archeology team there digging through the ruins of ancient civilizations. It explains that the area has been at war since the worship of the rock.

    Even though it is fiction it is a good read.

  7. #97
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Seen
    10-14-11 @ 10:09 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,164

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I wonder how much Hussein Obama iss going to give for a pay raise next year........This year for the first time in 30 years they got noting..........Thanks Hussein...........
    Actually, you are wrong:

    On December 19, 2009, the Senate passed and President Obama signed into law, the appropriations bill to pay for the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 that the president signed back on October 28, 2009, which stated, "Increase in Basic Pay Effective on January 1, 2010, the rates of monthly basic pay for members of the uniformed services are increased by 3.4 percent."
    SOURCE

    I understand you hate the President. But don't just outright tell lies. Please do some research.

    It's called "Google", I was able to find the evidence to prove you wrong in about 14 seconds.

  8. #98
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: Obama wants record $708 billion for military next year [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Actually, you are wrong:



    SOURCE

    I understand you hate the President. But don't just outright tell lies. Please do some research.

    It's called "Google", I was able to find the evidence to prove you wrong in about 14 seconds.
    Oh! That's what he was saying? I could not understand because I can't read asterisks.

    Here's a side note. Social Security did not get a cola increase this year. That's becuasue your average politician does not know what a loaf of bread cost these days.

    Unthank you Obama. If I would have known he was going to that that I would have voted for Michael Moore.

Page 10 of 10 FirstFirst ... 8910

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •