59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

[Navy Pride]

Well it seems the silent majority does not agree with the members of DP who think profiling is wrong at least the liberals in DP feel that way........This is great to see because I believe strongly in profiliing and whatever else it takes to keep this country safe..........

59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security

59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security - Rasmussen Reports


The Christmas Day terrorist attempt by a Nigerian Muslim on a U.S. airliner has reignited the debate on racial and ethnic profiling in airports, but most Americans agree that profiling is necessary to ensure airline safety.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of adults say factors such as race, ethnicity and overall appearance should be used to determine which boarding passengers to search at airports. Twenty-six percent (26%) say these factors should not be used to determine which passengers to search. Another 15% are not sure.

 

[Navy Pride]

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Looks like my left wing friends are crying in their beer over this........just goes to show what happens when the silent majority speaks and as usual the left is on the wrong side of the issue.........

 

[ScottD]

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This is great to see because I believe strongly in profiliing and whatever else it takes to keep this country safe..........

Have you ever watched V for Vendetta? You should.

 

[ScummyD]

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No, but I've seen SP for Statistically Probable.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Just remember when you said this, NP:

My life is not run by polls.........

Remember, you can't have it both ways. When one poll supports your position, and another does not, either they are both valid, or the both are not.

As to the OP. I think profiling is a poor word... or a word that has gotten a lot of negativity to surround it. If during the matter of a few years, several terrorist attacks on airplanes are performed by blonde-headed men, it makes sense to be more suspicious of blonde-headed men on airplanes. That does not mean that all blonde-headed men should not be allowed to fly... or should be harassed. But it stands to reason to be more aware when you see a blonde-headed man going on an airplane. This is not stereotyping. It is using past evidence to assist in making assessments.

 

[The Mark]

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Haven't really thought about this "Profiling" topic much.

But...

IMO, it would depend on how you went about it.

If you define "profiling" as "focusing more attention on X person who fits into a specific framework Y which describes the majority of persons of persuasion Z", then as of yet I don't see much issue with it.
As long as there is still some attention focused on everyone else, in case someone who does not fit into framework Y but is still of persuasion Z (if persuasion Z is a state of mind which allows terror-causing actions to be performed by someone) is attempting to pass through a security setup using framwork Y as a screen.

Or...something.

 

[ScummyD]

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A testament to the politically correct insanity now ruling the day in airport security.

My mother-in-law was pulled aside and searched and questioned last time she flew last year. She is as white as can be, speaks with a thick Scottish accent, and has blonde hair. You know, fitting the classic profile of the typical Islamic terrorist now wreaking havoc all over the globe in the name of Allah.

Those cowards in charge are more concerned about bending over backwards trying not to offend Muslims than they are in protecting people and ensuring the efficiency of travel and commerce.

 

[Navy Pride]

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Just remember when you said this, NP:



Remember, you can't have it both ways. When one poll supports your position, and another does not, either they are both valid, or the both are not.

As to the OP. I think profiling is a poor word... or a word that has gotten a lot of negativity to surround it. If during the matter of a few years, several terrorist attacks on airplanes are performed by blonde-headed men, it makes sense to be more suspicious of blonde-headed men on airplanes. That does not mean that all blonde-headed men should not be allowed to fly... or should be harassed. But it stands to reason to be more aware when you see a blonde-headed man going on an airplane. This is not stereotyping. It is using past evidence to assist in making assessments.

Yes but when profiling you profile the people who are doing the deeds.........for instance if a one armed man commits a crime you don't profile people who have 2 arms.........

I can remember when most everyone was against profiling.Judging by the rasmussen poll things have drastically changed........Thank God for change......

Your right CC I don't agree with most polls because the are usually bias or have and agenda.I can't say that for Rasmussen though..........They are usually pretty close to being right on.........

 

[ScummyD]

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Now THAT'S change you can believe in.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Yes but when profiling you profile the people who are doing the deeds.........for instance if a one armed man commits a crime you don't profile people who have 2 arms.........

I can remember when most everyone was against profiling.Judging by the rasmussen poll things have drastically changed........Thank God for change......

NP... I pretty much agree with you here. These tactics are invaluable in law enforcement.

Your right CC I don't agree with most polls because the are usually bias or have and agenda.I can't say that for Rasmussen though..........They are usually pretty close to being right on.........

Just messing with you, NP. I don't buy much into public polls... Rasmussen or otherwise. I much prefer to see research with more methodologically sound studies.

 

[Z3n]

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Looks like my left wing friends are crying in their beer over this........just goes to show what happens when the silent majority speaks and as usual the left is on the wrong side of the issue.........

Rasmussen's Polling Stirs Bias Debate -- Politics Daily

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[d0gbreath]

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A testament to the politically correct insanity now ruling the day in airport security.

My mother-in-law was pulled aside and searched and questioned last time she flew last year. She is as white as can be, speaks with a thick Scottish accent, and has blonde hair. You know, fitting the classic profile of the typical Islamic terrorist now wreaking havoc all over the globe in the name of Allah.

Those cowards in charge are more concerned about bending over backwards trying not to offend Muslims than they are in protecting people and ensuring the efficiency of travel and commerce.

The profiling goes on. It's just not spoken. Your Aunt had to be checked out, as many others, so as to appear to not profile only individuals with Muslim names.

I'm more than willing to submit myself to questioning at the airport so that all of the Muslim named people can be checked out thoroughly without the 'appearance' of profiling.

EDIT: My wife and I flew to Hawaii from Dallas on 5/2/01. There were signs in the airport saying that they were on high alert. I was patted down thoroughly. Did they have intelligence suggesting a plane bomber might appear in May of 2001? Spooky.

 

[LiberalAvenger]

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Looks like my left wing friends are crying in their beer over this........just goes to show what happens when the silent majority speaks and as usual the left is on the wrong side of the issue.........

Being slightly liberal I believe that every muslim should be doubled checked before boarding any planes. We are, after all, at war.

One of history's greatest liberals interred the japanese in camps during world war II, Franklin Rooselvelt.

Don't try to say that this war does not equal the second world war.

This one is much worse and will continue to get worse unless we get rid of all of the political correctness.

 

[HILLBILLY]

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There is no room for political correctness when it comes to the safety of our citizens. If profiling hurts someones feelings then so be it.

 

[disneydude]

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Yes but when profiling you profile the people who are doing the deeds.........for instance if a one armed man commits a crime you don't profile people who have 2 arms.........

I can remember when most everyone was against profiling.Judging by the rasmussen poll things have drastically changed........Thank God for change......

Your right CC I don't agree with most polls because the are usually bias or have and agenda.I can't say that for Rasmussen though..........They are usually pretty close to being right on.........

You've also advocated pulling every soldier of Arab descent out of our military despite their status and job performance.

What's next Navy. Are you so afraid of the "Terrrrrrists" that you are going to advocate internment camps for Arab Americans?
After all.....anything it takes to keep you in your false sense of security.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

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Looks like my left wing friends are crying in their beer over this........just goes to show what happens when the silent majority speaks and as usual the left is on the wrong side of the issue.........

Should we always do what the majority wants?

Does that make it the right thing to do?

 

[Navy Pride]

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Should we always do what the majority wants?

Does that make it the right thing to do?

Yes as long as it lawful and in agreement with the constitution........

 

[Navy Pride]

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You've also advocated pulling every soldier of Arab descent out of our military despite their status and job performance.

What's next Navy. Are you so afraid of the "Terrrrrrists" that you are going to advocate internment camps for Arab Americans?
After all.....anything it takes to keep you in your false sense of security.

Totally wrong as usual but I do believe these individual should be strongly screened before entering the military...........We would not of had that tragedy at Fort Hood if that had happened.....I know that means nothing to you but talk is cheap...........

 

[disneydude]

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Totally wrong as usual but I do believe these individual should be strongly screened before entering the military...........We would not of had that tragedy at Fort Hood if that had happened.....I know that means nothing to you but talk is cheap...........

Once again Navy....in this modern technological world, your previous posts betray you.

Just weeks ago you were saying that anyone of Arab descent should be kicked out of the military for "security purposes".

You were saying that regardless of whether the person had high military honors and a spotless record that they should be expelled.

You aren't fooling anyone here....except maybe yourself.

 

[disneydude]

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Yes as long as it lawful and in agreement with the constitution........

and if its not in agreement with the Constitution you will cry "liberal activist judges denying the will of the people".

You are too predictable, Navy.

 

[Ikari]

whatever else it takes to keep this country safe..........

Rather fascist statement, eh?

 

[Apocalypse]

Rather fascist statement, eh?

No.









.

 

[HILLBILLY]

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and if its not in agreement with the Constitution you will cry "liberal activist judges denying the will of the people".

You are too predictable, Navy.

So tell me disneydude, what would be your plan, if any, to protect the citizens? I am curious for the lib answer.

 

[Ikari]

No.

No eh? Anything for "safety" huh? Not fascist at all, doesn't excuse horrific growth and interference of government towards the rights and liberties of the individual. Nope, that statement of absolute could never do that. K.

Anything for safety can easily come at the cost of the rights and liberties of the individual, which is an act of authoratative fascism. What you mean by "anything for safety" is "anything for the welfare of the State". And that is in fact a statement of fascism.

 

[Z3n]

Rather fascist statement, eh?

I love the Orwellian bull the right spews.

ANYTHING FOR LIBERTY, WE ARE AT WAR

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin