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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    whatever else it takes to keep this country safe..........
    Rather fascist statement, eh?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Rather fascist statement, eh?
    No.









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    Re: Poll on profiling

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    and if its not in agreement with the Constitution you will cry "liberal activist judges denying the will of the people".

    You are too predictable, Navy.
    So tell me disneydude, what would be your plan, if any, to protect the citizens? I am curious for the lib answer.

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    No.
    No eh? Anything for "safety" huh? Not fascist at all, doesn't excuse horrific growth and interference of government towards the rights and liberties of the individual. Nope, that statement of absolute could never do that. K.

    Anything for safety can easily come at the cost of the rights and liberties of the individual, which is an act of authoratative fascism. What you mean by "anything for safety" is "anything for the welfare of the State". And that is in fact a statement of fascism.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Rather fascist statement, eh?
    I love the Orwellian bull the right spews.

    ANYTHING FOR LIBERTY, WE ARE AT WAR

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Rather fascist statement, eh?
    At least the trains will be on time.

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Just because a majority of people want it doesn't mean we should do it. I didn't see Navy running around touting we should have national health care because a majority of Americans wanted it at the time. Its fickle pointless politics to base it off of nothing but what the majority says, and even more hacky to trumpet it only when the majority wants something you want. Its a poor tactic when people did it for health care, its a poor tactic for now. In both cases people are voting in part for something they WANT....in one case, to be checked less at airports and in the other part to have free health care.

    Additionally, what is being suggested in that statement....that race/ethnicity should be included in a broader scope of profiling....is COMPLETELY different than what many on here pushing it were suggesting which ranged from checking EVERY person that "looked muslim", focusing primarily on people that "looked Muslim", giving full searchs including cavity searches to everyone that "looked muslim", to one poster gleefully thinking of the notion of just electrocuting any muslim that came through the line.

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
    - Benjamin Franklin
    I love any hyper partisan that thinks this kind of notion is reserved for either side.

    Liberals do it too. Please, give up your freedom of choice and ability to worry about your own body for the security of knowing that father government will take care of you if you're sick.




    It goes both ways, both sides do it, just in different ways.

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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I love any hyper partisan that thinks this kind of notion is reserved for either side.

    Liberals do it too. Please, give up your freedom of choice and ability to worry about your own body for the security of knowing that father government will take care of you if you're sick.




    It goes both ways, both sides do it, just in different ways.
    i didnt say it,ben franklin did! :P

    never said it was reserved for either side...
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    Re: 59% Favor Racial, Ethnic Profiling For Airline Security [Title edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    i didnt say it,ben franklin did! :P

    never said it was reserved for either side...
    Touche! Though actually Franklin didn't.The Ben Franklin quote is one of the most tired cliche's of all time in politics. Its also one of the most oft wrongly quoted ones. It is not a little liberty for a little security, but essential liberty for temporary security, which completely changes the inflection and meaning of the quote and makes it a much harder sell for using it to bludgeon over the heads of republicans.

    And it wasn't that you didn't say it was reserved for either side. It was that you took the oppertunity to use it to simply bash on conservatives full outwithout taking any moment to stop and realize its an obvious partisan attack job as its not just something conservatives, but politicians as a whole, do

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