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    In France, a Move to Outlaw Psychological Abuse in Marriage

    Virtually all couples argue over things like forgotten anniversaries and taking out the trash. Insults may even fly over whose spending busted the household budget. But in some relationships, accusations and harassment can become something more troubling - psychological abuse. French lawmakers are now recognizing this and are moving to offer people legal protection from repeated mental and emotional abuse in relationships.

    Aside from passing laws in 1996 and 2006 to protect women from violent husbands and partners, France has largely tried to deal with the once hushed-up problem of domestic abuse through education and public awareness campaigns. In the coming weeks, however, conservative legislators are expected to introduce a bill that would outlaw "conjugal abuse of a psychological nature" in both married and unmarried relationships. Backed by President Nicolas Sarkozy's ruling party, which increases its chances of passing, the legislation seeks to target the verbal and mental denigration, humiliation and manipulation that typically lead to physical abuse. The hope is that the bill will help prevent the emotional wounds that words often cause before a punch is ever thrown. (See pictures of Sarkozy celebrating Bastille Day.)

    "It's an important move forward, because the creation of this offense will let us tackle the most insidious situations - the ones that leave no physical scars but which still injure the victims inside," Prime Minister FranÇois Fillon said in November when he announced the government would pass a ban on psychological abuse before the end of this year.


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    Re: In France, a Move to Outlaw Psychological Abuse in Marriage

    That sounds pretty vague, how is it supposed to be enforced? I could see a spate of legal charges emanating from this, given the fact that virtually all couples have fights now and then. What qualifies as psychological abuse vs. just having an argument? Sounds like a slippery slope to me.
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    Re: In France, a Move to Outlaw Psychological Abuse in Marriage

    This will be interesting to watch since enclaves exist within France now where Sharia laws which control Islamic Cult members are in direct conflict with current laws. This Cult that includes all Muslims and at it's core is hateful and subjugates woman and children brain washes them and even permits torture and murder for looking the wrong way.
    Allowing any group to be called religious that is hate based is wrong. The same goes for one cult group here that allows women to be brain washed into thinking a cheating no good dirty bastard that lies and cheats again and so on is okay to be with because they were married in the Temple and their Union was meant to be no matter what. I think I'll puke now.

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    Re: In France, a Move to Outlaw Psychological Abuse in Marriage

    There's a woman I know--in fact I've known her since she was a small child--who was psychologically bullied by her (now thankfully ex) husband for years. It turned her from a confident, outgoing, bubbly character, into a timid shadow of her former self. Since he never laid a finger on her, there is nothing the law could do about it. And yet I'd argue the damage he's done is as bad, if not worse, than if he'd physically beaten her on a daily basis.

    That said, I agree with others that it would be an almost unenforceable law, if passed. I think a better course of action is to set up well-publicised support infrastructure and advertise that you don't have to take being bullied by a loved one. Education is the key.
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    Re: In France, a Move to Outlaw Psychological Abuse in Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This will be interesting to watch since enclaves exist within France now where Sharia laws which control Islamic Cult members are in direct conflict with current laws. This Cult that includes all Muslims and at it's core is hateful and subjugates woman and children brain washes them and even permits torture and murder for looking the wrong way.
    Allowing any group to be called religious that is hate based is wrong. The same goes for one cult group here that allows women to be brain washed into thinking a cheating no good dirty bastard that lies and cheats again and so on is okay to be with because they were married in the Temple and their Union was meant to be no matter what. I think I'll puke now.

    Cults are dangerous whether from the middle east or the western U.S.
    Interesting thought. Just how will france extend this law into the some 700 to 800 no go zones? I'm guessing they won't.
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