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Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

jamesrage said:
Since I applaud the man for taking out a baby serial killer I hope he gets the most lenient sentence possible assuming that is why he performed a late term abortion on a late term abortion provider.
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It's interesting how conservatives want this return to freedom, liberty, and all things promised in the constitution--the rule of law for instance...

The rule of law--when it's convenient, I guess.
 
Ikari said:
I don't care why he did it, the fact of the matter is that he did it. If all the info is correct, it's pretty open and shut on 1st degree murder. That's that.
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I totally agree, the guy is guilty but he still deserves a trial by his peers and I am sure someone like Disney Dude will be there to defend him and try and get him off.......
 
hazlnut said:
It's interesting how conservatives want this return to freedom, liberty, and all things promised in the constitution--the rule of law for instance...

The rule of law--when it's convenient, I guess.
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Not all Conservatives...............
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Depending on the verdict of this trail this could start a disturbing trend.
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Let's hope not.

Let's hope that people, no matter how passionate they are about an issue, continue to respect the law of the land.
 
Navy Pride said:
when I was young and a little more liberal I was not sure of that and then there was and incident where a woman who was a personal friend was raped and murdered, and he got away with it because he plea bargained with a liberal DA and judge.
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No, he DIDN'T get away with it because he plea bargained.

A plea bargain happens when a conviction isn't certain. The prosecutor bargains for a conviction in exchange for a reduced sentence, so he doesn't have to risk a not guilty verdict. It has nothing to do with the judge either.
 
Navy Pride said:
I totally agree, the guy is guilty but he still deserves a trial by his peers and I am sure someone like Disney Dude will be there to defend him and try and get him off.......
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He gets every right to defense he deserves. No problem there. It's just all this politicizing of the issues and such are a bit extreme. I don't care why he did it, he did it. He must go to court and he gets a chance to defend himself and the State gets a chance to present evidence counter to his claims. That's the end of it.
 
jamesrage said:
Again there is no evidence to support that claim that it was politically motivated. There only reason he Killed Tiller the baby serial killers is because of what Tiller did. You people have the nerve to call the judge a idiot and you turn around and make bull **** idiotic claims of terrorism without any proof that it was politically motivated. Talk about pot calling the kettle black.
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You dare to even talk about evidence or motivation, or having nerve when YOU openly support murder?

You have no moral right to have an opinion about any of this stuff.
 
misterman said:
No, he DIDN'T get away with it because he plea bargained.

A plea bargain happens when a conviction isn't certain. The prosecutor bargains for a conviction in exchange for a reduced sentence, so he doesn't have to risk a not guilty verdict. It has nothing to do with the judge either.
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A plea bargain can also take place when a county does not want to bare the expense of a long trial in a very liberal district where I live........You don't live here you are clueless as to what happened.......I probably should not even brought it up because the pain is still there for me, but don't pretend to know what is happening here..........
 
misterman said:
You dare to even talk about evidence or motivation, or having nerve when YOU openly support murder?

You have no moral right to have an opinion about any of this stuff.
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do you support Abortion????
 
Ikari said:
He gets every right to defense he deserves. No problem there. It's just all this politicizing of the issues and such are a bit extreme. I don't care why he did it, he did it. He must go to court and he gets a chance to defend himself and the State gets a chance to present evidence counter to his claims. That's the end of it.
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I believe that is pretty much what I said only I know he is guilty.......
 
Navy Pride said:
A plea bargain can also take place when a county does not want to bare the expense of a long trial in a very liberal district where I live
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But liberals love to spend money, don't they? It's conservatives that shortchange the cops and courts and DAs.

........You don't live here you are clueless as to what happened.......I probably should not even brought it up because the pain is still there for me, but don't pretend to know what is happening here..........
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I'm sorry this involves a painful personal issue, and I don't mean to make it hurt more. But perhaps your personal feelings are clouding the issue.
 
Redress said:
I do find it funny how conservatives, supposedly the law and order bunch, are only law and order when it's convenient. At least I am consistent, if you do the crime, you deserve the punishment.
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I do NOT agree with this. I am very conservative and attend a large conservative church. The only think that was said after this murder was wrong it was for anyone to murder anyone else no matter what sins they may have committed. We all are sinners. There was a lot of sympathy and prayer for his family and friends.

note: My church is very strongly against abortion. However that doesn't affect the love we are commanded to have for ALL people.
 
ds4159 said:
I do NOT agree with this. I am very conservative and attend a large conservative church. The only think that was said after this murder was wrong it was for anyone to murder anyone else no matter what sins they may have committed. We all are sinners. There was a lot of sympathy and prayer for his family and friends.

note: My church is very strongly against abortion. However that doesn't affect the love we are commanded to have for ALL people.
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Do you support the death penalty?
 
hazlnut said:
It's interesting how conservatives want this return to freedom, liberty, and all things promised in the constitution--the rule of law for instance...

The rule of law--when it's convenient, I guess.
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What are you talking about.............The man deserves a fair trial..what more do you want?
 
Navy Pride said:
What are you talking about.............The man deserves a fair trial..what more do you want?
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Please refer to the post I quoted -- then perhaps what I was saying will be clearer.

That's kinda how this works. We quote and we make a comment.

I imagine if you just read the comment, it would be confusing.

Good luck.:2wave:
 
misterman said:
Do you support murdering abortion doctors?
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Have you read any of my posts or do you just ramble on? I am strongly pro life and I hated Tiller the baby killer but this nut had no right to take his life...Everyone I know pro life has condemned his actions........He has probably hurt our cause more then anyone. That said he deserves a fail trial just like any other citizen and when guilty I will volunteer to pull the switch that ends his miserable life.........
 
Navy Pride said:
Have you read any of my posts or do you just ramble on? I am strongly pro life and I hated Tiller the baby killer but this nut had no right to take his life...Everyone I know pro life has condemned his actions........He has probably hurt our cause more then anyone. That said he deserves a fail trial just like any other citizen and when guilty I will volunteer to pull the switch that ends his miserable life.........
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Navy Pride, you sir are awesome even thought I am pro choice. You do, have my respect over this.
 
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misterman said:
You dare to even talk about evidence or motivation, or having nerve when YOU openly support murder?

You have no moral right to have an opinion about any of this stuff.
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I have every right to have an opinion on this subject.Me stating whether or not there is evidence of political motivation behind Scott Roeder killing Tiller the Baby serial is irrelevant to the fact of me applauding a late term abortion being performed on a serial killer. I see it as Roeder doing vigilante justice you abortionist and anti-aboriton cowards too chicken **** to admit that they are glad a serial killer is removed from society (because they are worried that people who think its alright to kill children under the guise of a medical procedure might somehow think of anti-abortionist as nuts)

misterman said:
Do you support murdering abortion doctors?
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Are you for or against abortion? And please none of that phony **** of "I find abortion wrong, but I think it should still be the woman's choice" horse ****.)
 
RyrineaHaruno said:
Navy Pride, you sir are awesome even thought I am pro choice. You do, have my respect over this.
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Thank you............In my wildest imagination I don't know how anyone can be pro choice, especially in the third trimiester where the baby is viable out of the womb but I respect your opinion, I just whole heartily disagree with it and hope someday you might reconsider, butthat is a whole another thread..........

Take care............
 
Navy Pride said:
Have you read any of my posts or do you just ramble on? I am strongly pro life and I hated Tiller the baby killer but this nut had no right to take his life.
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Why do you hate Tiller the baby killer? I know why I dislike Tiller.But for some reason I do not think you actually do, nor do I think you ever wanted Tiller to be stopped.

Everyone I know pro life has condemned his actions.
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The only ones I condemn is the so called church that allowed a monster like Tiller the baby killer to attend, Tiller the baby serial killer, and the scum in office who allow abortion to remain legal. I am anti-abortion and I applaud Scott Roeder's deed.

He has probably hurt our cause more then anyone.
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Why? Because those who think its alright to kill babies under the guise of a medical procedure might think pro-lifers/anti-abortionist as nuts? Oh no! Please people who openly support the killing of innocent babies please do not view me as a nut job for applauding the killing of someone who obviously deserved to die.

That said he deserves a fail trial just like any other citizen and when guilty I will volunteer to pull the switch that ends his miserable life.........
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You would pull the switch on a man who basically killed a serial killer that the law was not ever going to stop? I wonder if abolitionist whipped or hanged slaves that escaped, I wonder if any civil rights activist in the 50s and 60s snitched on black people who sat on front the bush or drank out of a whites only fountain? A cafeteria catholic willing to pull the switch on someone for killing what he should view as a baby serial killer. I find that very odd.
 
Navy Pride said:
I can only believe that my friend DD being a lawyer and adament against the death penalty is one of the ones fighting for the liife of these scumbags..........
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Yes...actually, Navy...that is exactly what I do. I believe the only GOD should decide when to take a life. I don't believe in state sponsored murder.
 
disneydude said:
Yes...actually, Navy...that is exactly what I do. I believe the only GOD should decide when to take a life. I don't believe in state sponsored murder.
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Murder is a legal term.Since it is not illegal for criminals to be executed it is not murder.Abortionist usually love to remind those of us in the anti-abortion crowd of this little fact.
 
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