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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When you say something is "yours" you are saying it belongs to that person.




    Calling back to the begining of our exchange:



    Since "very bad person" does not = "terrorist", let's keep the hysteria to a minimum shall we?
    He went into a church and shot a man in the head, terrorizing men, women, and children, who were praying. He IS a terrorist.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Please show where I said anything about Roeder deserving punishment without a trial. Don't make **** up Jerry.
    Post 5, your argument assumes Scott Roeder committed a crime, but that has yet to be established.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    He went into a church and shot a man in the head, terrorizing men, women, and children, who were praying. He IS a terrorist.
    Making people afraid is not what "terrorism" is.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    18 U.S.C. §2331:

    (5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
    (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
    (B) appear to be intended—
    (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

    (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
    (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
    (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

    US CODE: Title 18,2331. Definitions

    yes it can be argued that it was terrorism.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Personally I hope Scott Roeder get's off with a light sentence.

    Dr. Tiller was a monster and I'm glad he's dead. The world is much better off without him.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    This was not an act of terrorism, period. Please do not cheapen the meaning of the word by trying to imply that it was.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    18 U.S.C. §2331:

    (5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
    (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
    (B) appear to be intended—
    (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

    (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
    (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
    (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

    US CODE: Title 18,2331. Definitions

    yes it can be argued that it was terrorism.
    If that were true then he would be charged with terrorism.

    But he's not.

    The panty-bomber wasn't even charged with terrorism.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Making people afraid is not what "terrorism" is.
    Actually, it IS, according to the definition:

    That is the dictionary definition of a terrorist, but you earlier posted a legal definition consisting of 6 points. That's all fine and good, except that you are claiming the doctor to be a mass murderer, when the law says that he is not.

    The problem with your arguments, Jerry, is that you use the legal definition of something only when it suits your purpose, which makes your argument two faced and invalid. You can't have it both ways. If you choose the legal definition of a terrorist, then you must also choose the legal definition for the abortion doctor. Anything else is patently dishonest.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, it IS, according to the definition:



    That is the dictionary definition of a terrorist, but you earlier posted a legal definition consisting of 6 points. That's all fine and good, except that you are claiming the doctor to be a mass murderer, when the law says that he is not.

    The problem with your arguments, Jerry, is that you use the legal definition of something only when it suits your purpose, which makes your argument two faced and invalid. You can't have it both ways. If you choose the legal definition of a terrorist, then you must also choose the legal definition for the abortion doctor. Anything else is patently dishonest.
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    Last edited by Jerry; 01-11-10 at 02:19 AM.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, it IS, according to the definition:



    That is the dictionary definition of a terrorist, but you earlier posted a legal definition consisting of 6 points. That's all fine and good, except that you are claiming the doctor to be a mass murderer, when the law says that he is not.

    The problem with your arguments, Jerry, is that you use the legal definition of something only when it suits your purpose, which makes your argument two faced and invalid. You can't have it both ways. If you choose the legal definition of a terrorist, then you must also choose the legal definition for the abortion doctor. Anything else is patently dishonest.
    This was not a terrorist act. It was a murder.

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