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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You mean that one term president who will lose one judge to ovarian cancer next year and Douglas will be 90 and retire and then butchering in the womb will stop........As far as gay marriage goes, I don't even worry about that, you are losing every day on that one......The people have spoke DD.....Live with it.......
    WOw Navy...you really do live in a dream world. Who do you think is going to beat Obama, Palin?
    Obama will win a second term....but even if not, his election in 2008 protected the Supreme Court from extremism at least for the next couple of decades. Whatever hope the right-wing had of stacking the Supreme Court with activist judges died that November evening. Obama will have at least one more appointment, possibly more. I thank GOD every day that people like you didn't get the chance to destroy the Court, at least in my lifetime.

    As for gay marriage, Navy....you are losing the war. Open your eyes and look around you. The world is changing and it will take you along with it, whether you like it or not.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

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    Ok, so what you are saying has nothing to do with legality. If this is the case, then again, your hypothetical makes no sense. You said "if it was legal to do those things". Therefore, you are bringing legality into it. You can't have it both ways, james.
    Again a serial killer is someone whose victims all have something in common with each other.For example someone who only kills cops,someone who only kills Mormons, someone who kills only anti-war protesters someone who only kills veterinarian and etc. IT doesn't matter if it was legal or not.

    And I reject your definition of "serial killer". A serial killer is one who murders at least three people.
    Again you are confusing serial killer with mass murderer.



    Murder is a legal term... serial killers are murderers.
    Then why are they not called serial murderers if serial killer is a purely a legal term?

    What Dr. Tiller did was legal. Your usage of the term "serial killer" to describe him is inaccurate and used only for dramatic effect.
    Tiller is a serial killer, all his victims have something in common they are babies who have yet to be born and Tiller has killed lots of them.


    James... your hypothetical makes NO SENSE. If it was legal to kill people for anti-military protests, someone who killed the person who did that would be a criminal. What Tiller did was legal. What Roeder did was not. I condemn Roeder. He murdered. Tiller did not.
    You are just a hypocrite condemning Scott Roeder.Had Tiller's victims been adults I do not think you would be condemning Roeder regardless if it was legal or illegal.You just like all the other abortionist equate a unborn child to that of a toenail or some other expendable organ or body part. That is why your ilk condemn Scott Roeder.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You mean that one term president who will lose one judge to ovarian cancer next year and Douglas will be 90 and retire and then butchering in the womb will stop........
    IF the idiots at Fox try to prop up Palin or the republicans try to prop up Romney,McCain, Giuliani or some other Rino then Obama will have another term. I am not sure if Palin is a Rino, but I do know that she is a flip flopper and a quitter and all her opponents will use that against her.

    As far as gay marriage goes, I don't even worry about that, you are losing every day on that one......The people have spoke DD.....Live with it.......
    Calling it something different and legalizing marriage under another term hardly sounds like a loss.Four states with "civil union"s and six states with "domestic partnerships" and I am sure more are doing the same thing. If I called a pile of cow **** a T-Bone steak or filet mignon would you eat it?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's the question? Okay. I'd say it would be okay to kill someone who killed other people (any people, not just the groups you chose) even though it was legal. The difference is that nobody disagrees that those people are people, because they've been born.
    As I thought.If only the other hypocrites admit that too.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    WOw Navy...you really do live in a dream world. Who do you think is going to beat Obama, Palin?
    Obama will win a second term....but even if not, his election in 2008 protected the Supreme Court from extremism at least for the next couple of decades. Whatever hope the right-wing had of stacking the Supreme Court with activist judges died that November evening. Obama will have at least one more appointment, possibly more. I thank GOD every day that people like you didn't get the chance to destroy the Court, at least in my lifetime.

    As for gay marriage, Navy....you are losing the war. Open your eyes and look around you. The world is changing and it will take you along with it, whether you like it or not.
    If the Republicans can win in Mass. anything can happen........I heard that they had not won that seat sincee 1952....If that happens in the most liberal state in the union Obama is toast.........

    You say your winning on the gay marriage issue as you continue to lose state after state.....You have won nothing when ta vote of the people took place......The people will never let you jam gay marriage down thir throat...Your losing and you will continue to lose....That would even happen in Mass. if the people got to vote on the issue and not allow activist judges to make law instead of interpret it.......

    Dream on DD, you are losing big time and you will continue to do so...You can't even name one state where you have won.........
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    IF the idiots at Fox try to prop up Palin or the republicans try to prop up Romney,McCain, Giuliani or some other Rino then Obama will have another term. I am not sure if Palin is a Rino, but I do know that she is a flip flopper and a quitter and all her opponents will use that against her.



    Calling it something different and legalizing marriage under another term hardly sounds like a loss.Four states with "civil union"s and six states with "domestic partnerships" and I am sure more are doing the same thing. If I called a pile of cow **** a T-Bone steak or filet mignon would you eat it?
    What the **** are you talking about> I did not even mention Palin....... I will say Palin is no rino.....She is a conservative......That is why the left hate her so much........
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If the Republicans can win in Mass. anything can happen........I heard that they had not won that seat sincee 1952....If that happens in the most liberal state in the union Obama is toast.........

    You say your winning on the gay marriage issue as you continue to lose state after state.....You have won nothing when ta vote of the people took place......The people will never let you jam gay marriage down thir throat...Your losing and you will continue to lose....That would even happen in Mass. if the people got to vote on the issue and not allow activist judges to make law instead of interpret it.......

    Dream on DD, you are losing big time and you will continue to do so...You can't even name one state where you have won.........

    Problem is Navy....you are playing checkers....the rest of us are playing chess. You may have gotten a few pawns, but you will lose the match. Its inevitable. I think its funny that you cannot see it slipping away. When it happens you will be ill-prepared
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again a serial killer is someone whose victims all have something in common with each other.For example someone who only kills cops,someone who only kills Mormons, someone who kills only anti-war protesters someone who only kills veterinarian and etc. IT doesn't matter if it was legal or not.
    You saw the definition I quoted. you are using the definition wrong... to fit your agenda. Use the definition correctly and then we can talk.



    Again you are confusing serial killer with mass murderer.
    No, you are using the term serial killer incorrectly because the correct terminology demonstrates that your hypothetical was inaccurate and stupid. Use the term correctly, and then we can discuss this.



    Then why are they not called serial murderers if serial killer is a purely a legal term?
    You read the definition, correct? You are altering the definition to fit your agenda because the correct definition proves you wrong. Very dishonest debating.



    Tiller is a serial killer, all his victims have something in common they are babies who have yet to be born and Tiller has killed lots of them.
    Tiller is not a serial killer by definition.



    You are just a hypocrite condemning Scott Roeder.Had Tiller's victims been adults I do not think you would be condemning Roeder regardless if it was legal or illegal.You just like all the other abortionist equate a unborn child to that of a toenail or some other expendable organ or body part. That is why your ilk condemn Scott Roeder.
    You didn't read my entire comment... because if you had it would have proved you wrong. All you are doing is debating dishonestly, altering terminology to fit your inaccurate agenda. What Tiller did was legal. What Roeder did was not. Roeder is a criminal. Tiller is not. If killing anti-war protesters was legal, and Scott Roeder killed the person who killed the anti-war protesters, Roeder would STILL be a criminal because what he did was illegal. There is no hypocrisy on my part. But there is complete dishonesty on yours.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As I thought.If only the other hypocrites admit that too.
    I don't think my position is hypocritical. It's just that my level of thinking about this is higher than yours. And I don't mean that as an insult, though it is.

    By your logic, it is justified to kill anyone as long as you can rationalize it somehow. Any injustice anyone has done to you or someone else - kill them.

    There's more to it than that.
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What the **** are you talking about>
    You seem to think calling something by a different name must make it different regarding gay marriage issue and you have therefore falsely claimed that the left is losing the gay marriage battle.


    I did not even mention Palin....... I will say Palin is no rino.....She is a conservative.
    She is a quitter and a flip flopper though.Which is just as worse as a Rino.

    .....That is why the left hate her so much........
    The left hates anyone they think is not a %100 leftist,which is why despite Bush,Romney, McCain,Giuliani being libs they despised them.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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