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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    wow. just wow.

    what tiller did was legal. you seem to forget that. roeder deserves life in prison.
    What if anti-war/anti-military protests,homosexuality and abortion were illegal and it was legal to kill people for doing those things? Would you be saying "
    what ____ did was legal". you seem to forget that." or would you be hoping that someone would take out that serial killer and applaud who ever took out that serial killer?
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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Terrorist logic.
    So General Nat Turner,Harriet Tubman, and other abolitionist and our founding forefathers were terrorist?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So General Nat Turner,Harriet Tubman, and other abolitionist and our founding forefathers were terrorist?
    Ridiculous comparison. You act as if the only thing tiller did was give abortions. He provided regular medical services to women. As for the abortions he performed, they were for women with little chance of having a healthy baby. Its ridiculous to assume that these were women who came to him as a form of birth control. Women who went to him for an abortion had to be referred and usually they were women of little hope. Women who very much wanted to have children but complications arose late in their pregnancies that cause the fetus not to be viable. Some of these women get diagnosed with cancer during their pregnancies. So at some point do we force these women to come to term and have the chance of both the woman and her fetus not surviving? I suggest you read the testimony of some Tiller's patients their stories are all heartbreaking.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So General Nat Turner,Harriet Tubman, and other abolitionist and our founding forefathers were terrorist?
    No. They were willing to accept the consequences of their actions.

    I agree that just because something isn't legal doesn't mean it's not right. I agree completely with that. But that doesn't mean you can apply it to any situation you want any time you want. You have to actually argue that something is right.

    Slavery was wrong, no question. Abortion? You need to engage in that debate instead of just assuming it's wrong.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No. They were willing to accept the consequences of their actions.

    I agree that just because something isn't legal doesn't mean it's not right. I agree completely with that. But that doesn't mean you can apply it to any situation you want any time you want. You have to actually argue that something is right.

    Slavery was wrong, no question. Abortion? You need to engage in that debate instead of just assuming it's wrong.
    Why do I need to engage in a debate about abortion. I know it is wrong.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Ridiculous comparison. You act as if the only thing tiller did was give abortions.
    Tiller the baby serial killer's other acts does not negate the wrong he has done.

    He provided regular medical services to women.
    Most abortionist pretend that abortion is a medical service.


    As for the abortions he performed, they were for women with little chance of having a healthy baby.
    So you are a supporter of eugenics, I guess you share lot in common with Margaret Sanger the founder of planned parenthood.

    Its ridiculous to assume that these were women who came to him as a form of birth control.
    Its ridiculous to believe the lies some of these women tell and the lies of baby killers.

    Women who went to him for an abortion had to be referred and usually they were women of little hope.
    Women who very much wanted to have children but complications arose late in their pregnancies that cause the fetus not to be viable. Some of these women get diagnosed with cancer during their pregnancies.
    Probably because of the fact that there are only 3 or 4 late term aboritonist in the whole country.So I imagine that those scum do not take walk ins and that you probably have to come up with a really good lie to get a late term abortion.


    So at some point do we force these women to come to term and have the chance of both the woman and her fetus not surviving? I suggest you read the testimony of some Tiller's patients their stories are all heartbreaking.
    I am sure that if there was problems then they could have went to a real doctor instead of a baby serial killer. The only time I support abortion is if the mother's life is in danger and thats if it has been verified but multiple doctors (who are not pro-abortion) that giving a vaginal or cesarean birth at any point in the pregnancy would result in the loss of the mother's life.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Tiller the baby serial killer's other acts does not negate the wrong he has done.



    Most abortionist pretend that abortion is a medical service.




    So you are a supporter of eugenics, I guess you share lot in common with Margaret Sanger the founder of planned parenthood.



    Its ridiculous to believe the lies some of these women tell and the lies of baby killers.



    Probably because of the fact that there are only 3 or 4 late term aboritonist in the whole country.So I imagine that those scum do not take walk ins and that you probably have to come up with a really good lie to get a late term abortion.



    I am sure that if there was problems then they could have went to a real doctor instead of a baby serial killer. The only time I support abortion is if the mother's life is in danger and thats if it has been verified but multiple doctors (who are not pro-abortion) that giving a vaginal or cesarean birth at any point in the pregnancy would result in the loss of the mother's life.
    your hatred is showing, as is your ignorance.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    your hatred is showing, as is your ignorance.
    What if anti-war/anti-military protests,homosexuality and abortion were illegal and it was legal to kill people for doing those things? Would you be saying "
    what ____ did was legal". you seem to forget that." or would you be hoping that someone would take out that serial killer and applaud who ever took out that serial killer?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    The abortion doctor killing was nothing but an act of terrorism and those that support it are no better than Al-Qaeda.

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    Re: Trial to Begin in Abortion-Doctor Killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What if anti-war/anti-military protests,homosexuality and abortion were illegal and it was legal to kill people for doing those things? Would you be saying "
    what ____ did was legal". you seem to forget that." or would you be hoping that someone would take out that serial killer and applaud who ever took out that serial killer?
    let's talk about the facts, not what-ifs. abortion is legal.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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