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Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

Redress said:
J-Mac, I express my own personal opinions, not the opinions of any one else. Further, those are different situations with different comments. Feel free to ask me about those and I will give you my opinion.
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Ok, and just how are they different?


j-mac
 
Redress said:
Well groomed has nothing to do with it. Grooming would refer to choice of hair and facial hair styles. The fact that you went with "well groomed" shows a bias within you, which could be deemed racist. See how tricky it can be to pick your words?
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"Grooming" usually refers to making thing "clean and tidy" and has a different connotation than how you've tried to define it, above.

My usage doesn't show bias so much as that I have a better grasp of the word's meaning.;)
 
Taylor said:
"Grooming" usually refers to making thing "clean and tidy" and has a different connotation than how you've tried to define it, above.

My usage doesn't show bias so much as that I have a better grasp of the word's meaning.;)
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from wiki:

Grooming in humans typically includes bathroom activities such as primping: washing and cleaning the hair, combing it to extract tangles, and styling. It can also include cosmetic care of the body, such as shaving.
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This has been a nice diversion from Obama's CSPAN claim and the Dem's lack of openness with the healthcare debacle.

In short... Dem's are two-faced cowards on all fronts.
A sober mind doesn't require any more proof than what has been provided in the past 12-months?

And like Reagan, I admit to being part of the problem... I was once as pure a socialist as those running the Dem Party.

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Redress said:
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Kind of proves my point - as does any dictionary definition. If you meant "styling" than say "styling" not grooming. Grooming can include styling but the overall connotation is much different.
 
Tom Jones said:
Whose comment are you talking about?
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Hmm. Who could I have been responding to? Could it have been you, whose post I quoted in the exact same post?

Your comment took issue with the statement made. That doesn't mean the statement was racist.

I mean, if I say "America is not ready to elect a gay politician who speaks too effeminate" does that mean I am biased against gays? No, not at all; I am merely giving my opinion of the populace.
 
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Groucho said:
Hmm. Who could I have been responding to? Could it have been you, whose post I quoted in the exact same post?

Your comment took issue with the statement made. That doesn't mean the statement was racist.

I mean, if I say "America is not ready to elect a gay politician who speaks too effeminate" does that mean I am biased against gays? No, not at all; I am merely giving my opinion of the populace.
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Sure, Reid gave his opinion too, and he is entitled to his opinion just like you are - but that doesn't make it true or right - and he is a sitting senator - the majority leader at that - and for him to say that the majority of Americans would not vote for a man with darker skin than Obama, or for a man who spoke with a negro dialect, is racist and very divisive.

And for you to now try to give your "opinion of the populace" is also wrong - who are you, and who is Reid, to think you have the right and the knowledge to tell us what our opinion of others is?

What Reid said is not only racist against Balcks, it is highly pompous of him to think he knows the sentiment of others - well, we sure learned his sentiment on Black people with dark skin and who talk with a negro dialect - need not apply is what he is saying.
 
Tom Jones said:
Sure, Reid gave his opinion too, and he is entitled to his opinion just like you are - but that doesn't make it true or right - and he is a sitting senator - the majority leader at that - and for him to say that the majority of Americans would not vote for a man with darker skin than Obama, or for a man who spoke with a negro dialect, is racist and very divisive.

And for you to now try to give your "opinion of the populace" is also wrong - who are you, and who is Reid, to think you have the right and the knowledge to tell us what our opinion of others is?

What Reid said is not only racist against Balcks, it is highly pompous of him to think he knows the sentiment of others - well, we sure learned his sentiment on Black people with dark skin and who talk with a negro dialect - need not apply is what he is saying.
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I'll try again.

You attacked Reid not for his statement but because you disagreed with his conclusion. You used Schwarzenegger as an example, saying that people who argued that no one would vote for someone with his accent were wrong.

Whether they were right or wrong, or whether Reid was right or wrong, is irrelevant to whether the statement was racist.

If I said "It's not likely that a black man can win in Alabama in a 99% white district" that is NOT racist. It's an analysis of the voting populace, based on history, polls, and past votes. If I say "The gay rights bill will not pass in Utah" I am not being homophobic.

Clear now?

Just saying "it's racist because he talks about race" isn't enough.
 
and for him to say that the majority of Americans would not vote for a man with darker skin than Obama, or for a man who spoke with a negro dialect, is racist and very divisive.
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Beyond the political incorrectness involved in a statement such as this, is there any truth in it? Yes? No? Is this question better left unanswered?

From my lifetime observations, there's a LOT of truth in that. Unfortunantly.

But I most likely would try to avoid pointing it out if I had the option.
 
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I like the little piece about Obama's Tribe, back in Kenya. He must have like 20 half sisters. all with their Obama t-shirts on, and loin cloths. Very rustic really. almost surreal. I bet they have great hunting there. and all those spears. I'd love to go. Be like a theme park---kinda.
 
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He should step down. I don't agree with GOP attacks on Ried considering they were calling Obama a terrorist. But you know what, Ried should have known better then to say what he said.
 
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At one time in America, long long a go,--We use to have a thing called "Free speech". which has been replaced by Political Correctness. and in doing so, we lost our way.
 
Jetboogieman said:
He should step down. I don't agree with GOP attacks on Ried considering they were calling Obama a terrorist. But you know what, Ried should have known better then to say what he said.
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Please provide links where the GOP called Obama a terrorist... please.
Otherwise this post should have a CRAPOLA ALERT attached.

He's stinking up the place for sure, but a terrorist? ... perhaps economically.

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zimmer said:
Please provide links where the GOP called Obama a terrorist... please.
Otherwise this post should have a CRAPOLA ALERT attached.

He's stinking up the place for sure, but a terrorist? ... perhaps economically.

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g"]YouTube- Obama's terrorist connections - William Ayers[/ame]
 
This whole fiasco reminds me of "The Emperor's New Clothes".:doh
 
Groucho said:
I'll try again.

You attacked Reid not for his statement but because you disagreed with his conclusion. You used Schwarzenegger as an example, saying that people who argued that no one would vote for someone with his accent were wrong.

Whether they were right or wrong, or whether Reid was right or wrong, is irrelevant to whether the statement was racist.

If I said "It's not likely that a black man can win in Alabama in a 99% white district" that is NOT racist. It's an analysis of the voting populace, based on history, polls, and past votes. If I say "The gay rights bill will not pass in Utah" I am not being homophobic.

Clear now?

Just saying "it's racist because he talks about race" isn't enough.
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WRONG - and there you go again saying what people think - I called Reid a racist because what he said was racist - and it doesn't matter that you come up with hypotheticals about what if you said whatever - this thread is not about what you may or may not want to say - it is about what Reid said - and what Reid said is a racist.
 
zimmer said:
There we go... No GOP member said Obama was a terrorist... he just liked to hang with the scum.

Thanks for reminding us.

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Oh, so Obama was not a terrorist himself, he just was friends with terrorists. Well, of course, no one would leap to the conclusion of guilt by association.

Except for that terrorist fist bump.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Oh, so Obama was not a terrorist himself, he just was friends with terrorists. Well, of course, no one would leap to the conclusion of guilt by association.

Except for that terrorist fist bump.
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Huffington Post - LOL - nice try though.

Anyway - Barak hanging out with William Ayers and Reverend Wright...........

Food for thought:

Maybe Reid had something there when he said Obama is light skinned and doesn't talk with a negro dialect - meaning he could easily get away with his ties.
 
RightinNYC said:
Yea cause when I'm thinking about what characteristics I want in a politician, the most important one is that he keep it real.

You've got to be ****ing kidding me.



No, you're not kidding. Wow.



News flash: Snoop doesn't give a **** about you or other blue collar workers. He is a millionaire who has made his money off of convincing people like you that he's "keeping it real."



Oh well ****, if he coached Pee Wee football, we should just skip Congress and elect him President!



Setting aside the fact that Snoop is not a "normal every day person," you're right. I don't, because "normal, every day people" are ****ing stupid and should not be in charge of running anything, much less the country.

I want normal people working at normal jobs. I want exceptional people running my country.
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If anybody is keeping it real? It is Snoop. O.K. How about Diddy? Or JayZ! They all keep it real. I am sorry you want some white bread that would not know real if it got all up on em. So whatever.

What we need is a real person in office and the one we got? He is as close to real since we had Clinton:roll:
 
kali said:
if anybody is keeping it real? It is snoop. O.k. How about diddy? Or jayz! They all keep it real. I am sorry you want some white bread that would not know real if it got all up on em. So whatever.

What we need is a real person in office and the one we got? He is as close to real since we had clinton:roll:
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The ability to keep it real is not a qualification for office.

Holy ****.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Oh, so Obama was not a terrorist himself, he just was friends with terrorists. Well, of course, no one would leap to the conclusion of guilt by association.

Except for that terrorist fist bump.
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You accused the GOP of saying Obama was a terrorist.

I want proof.

Obama was a buddy of Ayers, a known terrorist.
It makes you question Obama's judgment, as does his 20-years at the feet of Wright.

But terrorista? We didn't accuse him of that, but we accuse him of having abysmal judgment.

And it was Obama that touted his "judgment".
An Epic Fail as we are living and learning... in all manner of ways... daily

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_TkrZYxGiY"]YouTube- Barack Obama: Judgement to Lead[/ame]

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RightinNYC said:
The ability to keep it real is not a qualification for office.

Holy ****.
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Maybe it should be? What we have is not working. Toss em all out and put in those blue collar everyday working folks that you seem to snarl your nose at. I bet we would see more honesty with them than the fake we got now.

I find it pretty sad that you do not find normal people "exceptional".. Who the hell do you think is keeping this country running? The exceptional Working people:roll:
 
Kali said:
Maybe it should be? What we have is not working. Toss em all out and put in those blue collar everyday working folks that you seem to snarl your nose at. I bet we would see more honesty with them than the fake we got now.

I find it pretty sad that you do not find normal people "exceptional".. Who the hell do you think is keeping this country running? The exceptional Working people:roll:
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That's totally hilarious coming a far lefty, a member of the group that hates fly-over country (red states), hahahahahah. What a laugh, from those who use ordinary Americans as cannon fodder to secure union dues for their political coffers. We snarl at the blue collar worker? That's funny.
 
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