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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    J-Mac, I express my own personal opinions, not the opinions of any one else. Further, those are different situations with different comments. Feel free to ask me about those and I will give you my opinion.

    Ok, and just how are they different?


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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well groomed has nothing to do with it. Grooming would refer to choice of hair and facial hair styles. The fact that you went with "well groomed" shows a bias within you, which could be deemed racist. See how tricky it can be to pick your words?
    "Grooming" usually refers to making thing "clean and tidy" and has a different connotation than how you've tried to define it, above.

    My usage doesn't show bias so much as that I have a better grasp of the word's meaning.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    "Grooming" usually refers to making thing "clean and tidy" and has a different connotation than how you've tried to define it, above.

    My usage doesn't show bias so much as that I have a better grasp of the word's meaning.
    from wiki:

    Grooming in humans typically includes bathroom activities such as primping: washing and cleaning the hair, combing it to extract tangles, and styling. It can also include cosmetic care of the body, such as shaving.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    This has been a nice diversion from Obama's CSPAN claim and the Dem's lack of openness with the healthcare debacle.

    In short... Dem's are two-faced cowards on all fronts.
    A sober mind doesn't require any more proof than what has been provided in the past 12-months?

    And like Reagan, I admit to being part of the problem... I was once as pure a socialist as those running the Dem Party.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    from wiki:
    Kind of proves my point - as does any dictionary definition. If you meant "styling" than say "styling" not grooming. Grooming can include styling but the overall connotation is much different.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    Whose comment are you talking about?
    Hmm. Who could I have been responding to? Could it have been you, whose post I quoted in the exact same post?

    Your comment took issue with the statement made. That doesn't mean the statement was racist.

    I mean, if I say "America is not ready to elect a gay politician who speaks too effeminate" does that mean I am biased against gays? No, not at all; I am merely giving my opinion of the populace.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Hmm. Who could I have been responding to? Could it have been you, whose post I quoted in the exact same post?

    Your comment took issue with the statement made. That doesn't mean the statement was racist.

    I mean, if I say "America is not ready to elect a gay politician who speaks too effeminate" does that mean I am biased against gays? No, not at all; I am merely giving my opinion of the populace.
    Sure, Reid gave his opinion too, and he is entitled to his opinion just like you are - but that doesn't make it true or right - and he is a sitting senator - the majority leader at that - and for him to say that the majority of Americans would not vote for a man with darker skin than Obama, or for a man who spoke with a negro dialect, is racist and very divisive.

    And for you to now try to give your "opinion of the populace" is also wrong - who are you, and who is Reid, to think you have the right and the knowledge to tell us what our opinion of others is?

    What Reid said is not only racist against Balcks, it is highly pompous of him to think he knows the sentiment of others - well, we sure learned his sentiment on Black people with dark skin and who talk with a negro dialect - need not apply is what he is saying.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    Sure, Reid gave his opinion too, and he is entitled to his opinion just like you are - but that doesn't make it true or right - and he is a sitting senator - the majority leader at that - and for him to say that the majority of Americans would not vote for a man with darker skin than Obama, or for a man who spoke with a negro dialect, is racist and very divisive.

    And for you to now try to give your "opinion of the populace" is also wrong - who are you, and who is Reid, to think you have the right and the knowledge to tell us what our opinion of others is?

    What Reid said is not only racist against Balcks, it is highly pompous of him to think he knows the sentiment of others - well, we sure learned his sentiment on Black people with dark skin and who talk with a negro dialect - need not apply is what he is saying.
    I'll try again.

    You attacked Reid not for his statement but because you disagreed with his conclusion. You used Schwarzenegger as an example, saying that people who argued that no one would vote for someone with his accent were wrong.

    Whether they were right or wrong, or whether Reid was right or wrong, is irrelevant to whether the statement was racist.

    If I said "It's not likely that a black man can win in Alabama in a 99% white district" that is NOT racist. It's an analysis of the voting populace, based on history, polls, and past votes. If I say "The gay rights bill will not pass in Utah" I am not being homophobic.

    Clear now?

    Just saying "it's racist because he talks about race" isn't enough.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    and for him to say that the majority of Americans would not vote for a man with darker skin than Obama, or for a man who spoke with a negro dialect, is racist and very divisive.
    Beyond the political incorrectness involved in a statement such as this, is there any truth in it? Yes? No? Is this question better left unanswered?

    From my lifetime observations, there's a LOT of truth in that. Unfortunantly.

    But I most likely would try to avoid pointing it out if I had the option.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    I like the little piece about Obama's Tribe, back in Kenya. He must have like 20 half sisters. all with their Obama t-shirts on, and loin cloths. Very rustic really. almost surreal. I bet they have great hunting there. and all those spears. I'd love to go. Be like a theme park---kinda.
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