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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Define "most". If you mean a simple majority, you are correct. However, I'm curious as to how you would quantify "most".
    More than a simple majority. Obama lost among whites by something like a 12-point margin, which is huge. Like many modern Democrats, Obama owes his election to minority turnout.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    More than a simple majority. Obama lost among whites by something like a 12-point margin, which is huge. Like many modern Democrats, Obama owes his election to minority turnout.

    For the record, I don't like posting things from slate, but I think this one is pertinent to this discussion:

    What we didn't overcome on Election Day. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

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    Obama didn't just win; he became the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to win a popular-vote majority. He won a larger proportion of white votes than any previous nonincumbent Democratic presidential candidate since Carter.

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    As a white person, I accept with gratitude Coates' warm feelings. But I fear they may be a tad premature. While it's certainly true that enough white people voted for Obama to put him in the Oval Office, the blunt fact remains that a majority of white people did not. Although Obama beat John McCain in the popular vote by an impressive seven-point margin, McCain beat Obama among white voters by an even more impressive 12-point margin. Obama got 53 percent of the broad electorate to vote for him but only 43 percent of the white electorate. When I say "white electorate," I don't mean the white working class, or white Southerners, or any other subgroup whose capacity for racial tolerance has long been held suspect. I mean all white voters.

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    Am I saying that any white vote against Obama must be counted as racist? Of course not. White people have all sorts of reasons for deciding who they vote for, and most (though not all) white conservatives would have a hard time justifying a vote for any Democratic presidential candidate. Nor am I saying that all or even most Republican voters harbor racial prejudice against African-Americans. Although a majority of whites was never going to vote for a black Democrat in 2008, it's entirely possible that a majority of whites might have voted for a black Republican. (Remember the brief GOP frenzy to draft Colin Powell to run against Bill Clinton in 1996?) More whites voted for Obama than for the very white John Kerry or Al Gore. That doesn't sound like racist behavior. It's Democrats who most whites dislike, not black people.

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    It's no puzzler why Johnson was the last Democrat to win a majority of the white vote. He signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act into law, observing as he signed the former that "we have lost the South for a generation." (Actually, it's been two generations, and nobody would be surprised to see three.) What Johnson didn't allow himself to think was, "We have lost the white vote for a generation." (Again, it's been more like two.) Were LBJ transported to the year 2008, he would be deeply moved to discover that the United States had elected a black man president. But he would find it very depressing to learn that none of his Democratic successors ever won a white majority. Surely, he'd think, it's harder for Democrats to elect a black man president than to win forgiveness from the white majority for abolishing Jim Crow.

    The good news is that my fellow Caucasians are aging out of their lock-step Republicanism. Obama failed to win a majority of whites (43 percent); or white men (41 percent); or even white women (46 percent), who are more open to voting Democratic. But he won 54 percent of all white voters age 18 to 29, to McCain's 44 percent. You'll note from the chart that the white majority among voters has been shrinking during the past 40 years, just as the white majority has shrunk in the general population. The three-point drop since 2004, though, is so dramatic that a likely explanation isn't demographics at all but rather a greater disinclination than usual among white folks this year to vote. Turnout in 2008 was about what it was in 2004, and, according to the Center for the Study of the American Electorate, the reason it wasn't higheróas widely expected, given the keen interest in this electionówas that fewer Republicans went to the polls. The percentage of Democrats who went to the polls increased 2.6 percentage points while the percentage of Republicans went down 1.3 percentage points. The greatest favor the white race did Obama this year may have been to stay home. That's a far cry from Martin Luther King's dream, but it's a start.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    The Dems in the south held the slaves and the Republicans fought to free them - the Dems in the south fought against civil rights in the 60's and the Republican congress wrote comprehensive civil rights legislation and fought to get it past - the Dems do keep Blacks down with their welfare crumbs and Republicans want to bring them up out of the slump the Dems have then in, even with school vouchers - god forbid if they ended up going to a school where their kids go - the Dems had an opportunity to reach into Black communities and train them in the construction industry, which wouldn't have taken much, but instead allowed millions of illegal aliens in to do the work instead, and now they want to do the same with the illegal aliens - hook them up with welfare for votes.

    I can see the Dems getting away with this **** years ago, but in the day of information technology...damn, they have dumbed them down better than I could ever imagine.
    Well I won't deny that some Democrats worked for civil rights, and got a lot of help from the Republican Party during that time. But I'll say that I think State's rights were still an issue during that time, and southern states have always been sensitive to it. They didn't want the govt and a bunch of activist justices telling them what to do. Sure there were racial scars left after the Civil War that lasted for 100 years, but it was fed right along the way too. Look how the South was treated after the Civil War, in spite of Lincoln's attempt to bring the South back in an amiable manner. The North was plenty guilty for things that went on in the South. They prospered plenty from southern raw materials while feigning disgusted at slavery. That's why many who talk trash about the South don't know what the **** they're talking about. Anyway, that's another topic. There's no doubt in my mind that there is plenty of racism in the Democrat Party to go around, and the hypocracy about it is my biggest complaint about them; that and their idea of spending us into prosperity.

    Harry Reid has done enough damage to warrant leaving, he racist and he demoralized our troops.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
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    "Obama didn't just win; he became the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to win a popular-vote majority. He won a larger proportion of white votes than any previous nonincumbent Democratic presidential candidate since Carter."
    That's a very long-winded way of saying he got a larger proportion of the white vote than Clinton did in his first term when there were (almost) three viable candidates (Perot).



    Obama's win was significant in many ways, no reason for the author to make the more mundane stuff sound WAY more meaningful than it was.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    In the words of Eric Holder... Obama and Democrats are Capital "C" Cowards when it comes to dealing with race issues.

    100% bonafide, certified, personified Cowards on dealing with race.

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    I would say most of America are cowards when it comes to dealing with race. We can't have a dialogue about it.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I would say most of America are cowards when it comes to dealing with race. We can't have a dialogue about it.
    I learned a lot when I lived in a black neighborhood. I'm whiter than Wonder Bread.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I learned a lot when I lived in a black neighborhood. I'm whiter than Wonder Bread.
    Then I guess we can assume that everyone else learned a lot too. So why do blacks complain about being disadvantaged?
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    [QUOTE=American;1058481827 So why do blacks complain about being disadvantaged?[/QUOTE]

    Maybe it has something to do with 40 acres and a mule.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Maybe it has something to do with 40 acres and a mule.
    Democrats are famous for empty promises.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    Ya, and for Reid to use the word negro....... he obviously has his head stuck in the good ol' days of the south and the KKK right along with the other congressional Dems like Robert Byrd, also a member of the KKK.
    Don't you mean "former" member?

    Let's stay honest on this wonderful forum.

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