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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    That's the thing though, was what he said racist? If you think it's a racist slur, was it because he used the word "negro" or because you think that his sentiment was racist in itself? I think that he wasn't being negative about it, it might even be a praise in his own mind, but he used a poor choice of word. That, to me, is not racist, it's just stupid.
    I found the sentiment racist in itself. It reminds me of the time Bill O'Reilly went to a restaurant with black patrons and was amazed that they used silverware and refrained from jumping on the tables.

    I'm sorely disappointed with Reid.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada described in private
    People are allowed to be idiots in private, and people should have some reasonable assumption that what they say will be private. To me the problem is not that Reid made a stupid comment, but that we even know about it. Politicians do deserve private time, just like any one else.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People are allowed to be idiots in private, and people should have some reasonable assumption that what they say will be private. To me the problem is not that Reid made a stupid comment, but that we even know about it. Politicians do deserve private time, just like any one else.
    Do you hold that same belief for George W. Bush?

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    Do you hold that same belief for George W. Bush?
    I first talked on this board about politicians and rights of privacy when the republican in Florida was about to be outed as gay. You will not get very far with the usual kneejerk questioning of my consistency.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    I'm very surprised. I'm insulted for my black friends. "A light skinned Black with no Negro dialect," or something like that.

    I can't believe a leading politician would feel this way!

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I first talked on this board about politicians and rights of privacy when the republican in Florida was about to be outed as gay. You will not get very far with the usual kneejerk questioning of my consistency.
    Though I joined long before you made an appearance, I didn't make many posts here until of late, so I'm not sure of what your views were. So if you have included the conservatives in that privacy clause, that speaks admirably of you. You are truly a gem.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Though I joined long before you made an appearance, I didn't make many posts here until of late, so I'm not sure of what your views were. So if you have included the conservatives in that privacy clause, that speaks admirably of you. You are truly a gem.
    The thing is, the whole "well, that is inconsistent" argument fails without my earlier comments on politicians in privacy. If you don't like the argument, argue against the merits of the argument. If the argument stands on it's own merits, don't argue against it. Saying "well, you might not think that if it was a republican" isn't an argument at all, it's an attempt to dismiss the argument by smearing the one making it. There is inconsistency in this thread compared to previous posts, but it's not on my part, and it's not a useful argument to make.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Seriously? You think saying "honest injun" is analogous to referring to a "negro dialect"?
    A racial slur is a racial slur, regardless of the race at which it is directed. Why should one be any worse than another? They are ALL obsolete, discredited, passť and unacceptable in a modern society.

    It would seem that certain racial slurs are acceptable to you. I think that's very sad.

    And while each of these idiots was attempting to say something positive by using grossly outdated and demeaning terms (which highlights their stupidity even more), the fact remains that the use of such derogatory phrases indicates a mind that evidently keeps them handy, and uses them without the slightest thought or hesitation.

    Do you use words/phrases like these in everyday conversation? If so, you're guilty of the same mindless continuation of demeaning racial slurs that Reid and Steele are.

    Phrases like these don't even exist my brain, let alone fall out of my mouth thoughtlessly. On the very rare occasion that I do choose to use such outdated and discredited terms, it's for the sole purpose of pointing out racism or hypocrisy, and educating the ignorant. I have to think HARD about using a racial slur...

    What do you think about people who utter them without even thinking?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Do you think that everyone who says "gypped" is a racist?
    No, I don't believe people who have racial slurs sitting right at the top of their heads for handy use are necessarily racists, although I'm sure many of them are. I do think they're hopelessly ignorant and an embarrassment, both to themselves and to what this country is supposed to be about. When such thoughtless derision comes from our "leaders" it's that much worse.

    The fact that so many here choose to partisanize their condemnation of the use of any racial slur is just completely messed up.

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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    Quote Originally Posted by MsRetro View Post
    I found the sentiment racist in itself. It reminds me of the time Bill O'Reilly went to a restaurant with black patrons and was amazed that they used silverware and refrained from jumping on the tables.

    I'm sorely disappointed with Reid.
    I think I heard Sharpton excuse this as Reid speculating how Obama would play amongst the electorate. If that is what Reid was doing then he was displaying his opinion of an America ingrained in racism.

    ...yeah, possibly. But then why do we refuse to make the same consideration for O'Reilly's comment (which I happened to have heard when it took place). In context, he was also referring to a common stereotypical societal opinion. Or, how about Lott's comment regarding Strom Thurmond? In context Lott was acknowledging Thurmond's legislative strengths while foolishly ignoring his racist past. But in that case, for the Left, the details didn't matter.

    Assuming Sharpton is correct, there is no issue here. Just as there shouldn't be for Lott and O'Reilly. What is interesting is how many of us play the double standard when something like this happens.
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    Re: Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

    whether or not he's racist, reid sure is dumb

    the average 6th grader possesses the creativity to come up with a more tactful way of going where harry, oddly, needed to go

    the premium, therefore, is not on cleverness

    it's on sensitivity, instead

    all reid had to say was---mr obama sure looks good on tv, he speaks well, he even has the ability to reach ordinary folks in ways, perhaps, others can't

    that's not so hard, is it?

    all ya gotta do is make the effort

    harry's thoughtless

    he was speaking to REPORTERS, mind you, when he made the dumb remarks

    and the dems' INCUMBENT PARTY LEADER is sinking in the silver state, vs a pair of republican littluns

    his negatives are 52% in vegas and its environs

    he's losing independents on the order of 25 to 55

    obama's approval is a dismal 34% there, with disses at 46

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