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New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

ptif219 said:
Again what does the definition i posted say?
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Again, it is not MY job to clarify the definitions that you posted. It's YOURS. So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Again, it is not MY job to clarify the definitions that you posted. It's YOURS. So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
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Why don't people understand that fleeing from a direct question is a clear exposure of the weakness of their argument?
 
ptif219 said:
Again what does the definition I posted say. I take you won't answer because the definition does not fit your agenda
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Keep dancing ptif219. I've given you an out but you haven't taken it. Like I told you, you posted them, it's your job to clarify them... not mine. So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Keep dancing ptif219. I've given you an out but you haven't taken it. Like I told you, you posted them, it's your job to clarify them... not mine. So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
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I starting to wonder if Ptif is "Stinger" in disguise.....hmmmmmmm
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
This is a rather easy "yes" or "no" question. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here, that if you ARE using them synonymously, then what you are saying makes sense. If you are not, then it does not.
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Again what does the definition I posted say? Why do fail to address the definition I posted and instead try to trap me?
 
ptif219 said:
Again what does the definition i posted say?
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That's what we are trying to determine. Are you using Normal and Average synonomously?

We recognize that you changed your semantics from Normal to "THE Normal".....why did you change that midstream...
 
ptif219 said:
Again what does the definition I posted say? Why do fail to address the definition I posted and instead try to trap me?
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If you claim it's a trap, then you must know you screwed up and have no position. If not just answer the question... and remember, it is your responsibility to clarify the definitions, since you posted them: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
What most people "consider", NP is irrelevant and an appeal to the numbers logical fallacy, NP. You would have to show evidence that gays are abnormal... and I know you can't do that.
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Just like I told Redress its just my opinion and likewise yours .....I don't even want to get into the claims that people who were gay have made that they changed and if they did then that would definitely separate them from Blacks who can not change...........
 
disneydude said:
Why don't people understand that fleeing from a direct question is a clear exposure of the weakness of their argument?
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Because if he admitted that, he'd have to admit that he has no position.
 
Navy Pride said:
Just like I told Redress its just my opinion and likewise yours .....I don't even want to get into the claims that people who were gay have made that they changed and if they did then that would definitely separate them from Blacks who can not change...........
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There is a difference between orientation, which does not change, and sexual activity, which can.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Then not only will I keep asking him, but I encourage everyone to respond to each of his posts asking the same question until he answers.
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I have given you the answer it is in the definition I posted.
 
Navy Pride said:
Just like I told Redress its just my opinion and likewise yours .....I don't even want to get into the claims that people who were gay have made that they changed and if they did then that would definitely separate them from Blacks who can not change...........
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Navy....is it possible to change the color of your eyes?

Seriously....is it?

If you buy purple contacts and put them on brown eyes....would you say that you have truly changed the color of your eyes?....or have masked them?
 
ptif219 said:
Your answer is in the definition I posted that you keep avoiding and running from.
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Your inability to clarify what you posted demonstrates the failure of your position. You have been asked a question and refuse to answer it. Here it is again: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Simple "yes" or "not question: are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?

You posted the definitions, you clarify them and tell us how you are using them. Not my job to do that.
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The answer is in the definition I posted what does it say?
 
Navy Pride said:
Just like I told Redress its just my opinion and likewise yours .....I don't even want to get into the claims that people who were gay have made that they changed and if they did then that would definitely separate them from Blacks who can not change...........
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You're not addressing my point, NP. Prove that being gay is abnormal. We already know it is not average... prove it is abnormal.
 
disneydude said:
Make it easy on yourself dude....admit it was poor semantics on your part and you didn't really mean normal...as much as you meant to say the "average" or the "norm".
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When you tell me what the definition I posted says about it.
 
Navy Pride said:
Well lets just say about 75% of the people in this country feel that way.......
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Irrelevant. Appeal to numbers fallacy. Since the majority of folks voted for Obama, I guess that means that folks who did not are abnormal, right?
 
Navy Pride said:
Well lets just say about 75% of the people in this country feel that way.......
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No they don't. What planet are you on. I dare you to show me a poll that shows that even 25% of the population considers gays "abnormal"

You are so far off the planet on this particular point....its not even funny.

Seriously....show us one that even comes anywhere close to what you are claiming...btw....we aren't holding our breath....we know you will cut and un on this one.
 
Redress said:
There is a difference between orientation, which does not change, and sexual activity, which can.
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I disagree gays are defined by their sexual orientation......
 
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