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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I was a liberal Democrat back before Regan. I actually voted for Jimmy Charter, in the first run against Ford.

    Under Regan, I became a member of the Republican party. After the disaster that was Bush (whom I voted for) I joined the Constitution party. I supported Ron Paul in the last election because I have given up on our 2 party never meant to exist system.

    I went from liberal to conservative.

    Yes people can and do change.
    I don't doubt that. I'm ashamed to admit that I voted for Reagan as well.

    However, for NP to say that he was as "liberal as hell" is just not believeable based on so much of what he has written about his life over the years here.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Still not buying it. You've written too much on this board for me to ever believe that. A Leopard doesn't change its spots THAT much.
    Yes they can. I am a good example.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    As far as free ride...nobody's talking about a "free ride" here. We are talking about whether the Government should be able to step in and decide who and who you aren't allowed to marry.
    They already have all the benefits of civil unions. Nothing is being denied gay couples.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You and your ilk want big Government in control of those decisions.
    No, we want the people in control. With checks and balances so the tyranny of the majority does not become a reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Others of us believe that Government should not be in charge of personal decisions that we make in our lives.
    Then tell the government to get the hell out of marraige all together.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Maybe Obama should set up death panels for this group
    Love it..........Sadly it might be true though..........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I don't doubt that. I'm ashamed to admit that I voted for Reagan as well.

    However, for NP to say that he was as "liberal as hell" is just not believeable based on so much of what he has written about his life over the years here.
    I was a liberal Democrat to. I grew up in a Democrat household. As I got older I formed my own views on the world.

    It is silly for you to claim you know his life better than him.

    PS Ronald Regan was one of the best presidents this nation has ever had, that I lived under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I don't doubt that. I'm ashamed to admit that I voted for Reagan as well.
    However, for NP to say that he was as "liberal as hell" is just not believeable based on so much of what he has written about his life over the years here.



    Yeah, you voted for a man whom you disagree with on every possible issue angainst Carter who could be your brother on political issues........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then tell the government to get the hell out of marraige all together.

    I would agree with you there. But as long as Government is in the marriage business, the Constitution requires that if they are going to discriminate in its application, that they government have an important governmental purpose to over-ride that discrimination. THAT purpose is what no one on the side of the Government ever can define in this debate.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I was a liberal Democrat to. I grew up in a Democrat household. As I got older I formed my own views on the world.

    It is silly for you to claim you know his life better than him.
    Thank you...........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah, you voted for a man whom you disagree with on every possible issue angainst Carter who could be your brother on political issues........
    No. I was too young to vote in 80. I voted for Reagan (I'm sorry) in 1984 against Mondale.
    Granted...Mondale was no great catch either, but if I had that vote to take back....
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I was a liberal Democrat to. I grew up in a Democrat household. As I got older I formed my own views on the world.

    It is silly for you to claim you know his life better than him.

    PS Ronald Regan was one of the best presidents this nation has ever had, that I lived under.
    I'm not claiming that I know his life better than him....I'm just calling him out when its clear that he is being less than honest.
    Navy has written a lot of this site over the last 5 years. "Being liberal as hell" has never been one of them. Its rather convenient for him to start discussing this now.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. I was too young to vote in 80. I voted for Reagan (I'm sorry) in 1984 against Mondale.
    Granted...Mondale was no great catch either, but if I had that vote to take back....
    Well you agree with Carter on every issue.........In fact you could be his clone.........I guess Black Dog straightened you out on the young thing though......

    You better go DD while your only losing by a little bit............
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