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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I told you I don't read left wing garbage....what part of that do you not understand?
    I told you Ted Olson is a conservative. What part of that don't you understand?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It was written by Christians, with perhaps one or two exceptions, both of whom admitted that even if we don't know God exists it is better to assume that God does.
    It was written primarily be Thomas Jefferson, a deist. I'm not sure whether Thomas Jefferson bought into Pascal's wager, but if the fact that he tore up a Bible and made his own scripture containing only the teachings of Jesus and none of the supernatural miracles is any indication, I would say probably not.

    Oh a re-direct...very nice...and I might add that I love how you're trying to paint Conservatives with a 'liberal brush now.
    Classical liberal. I said so when I presented the link.
    You're trying to re-name Conservatives so as to encourage Conservatives to sympathize with Liberals by blurring the lines.
    So conservatives don't identify with classical liberalism?

    It's not a Conservative argument because marriage is not a sterile legal contract. The legalities are the accessory to the union, they are not the core of the union to which the relationship is an accessory.
    Huh?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I told you Ted Olson is a conservative. What part of that don't you understand?
    And I told you Olson was a conservative before his wife was killed and then turned to the left.......
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And I told you Olson was a conservative before his wife was killed and then turned to the left.......
    Really. So you can read minds now? Fascinating.

    You are pretty much alone in this contention, by the way.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It was written primarily be Thomas Jefferson, a deist.
    You might be interested to learn that Thomas Jefferson only offered a supplementary view on Jesus....not the Creator, not the OT laws, not the bible as a whole. Only Jesus.

    Anyway, apparently deists accept a "Creator", as Thomas Jefferson felt it necessary to include the Creator and Nature's God in the DoI, the same "Creator" who frowns on gay sex, and therefore gay 'marriage by extension.

    Your sources are hypocritical because their arguments contradict themselves. You need better material.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You might be interested to learn that Thomas Jefferson only offered a supplementary view on Jesus....not the Creator, not the OT laws, not the bible as a whole. Only Jesus.
    Isn't that exactly what I just said?

    Anyway, apparently deists accept a "Creator", as Thomas Jefferson felt it necessary to include the Creator and Nature's God in the DoI, the same "Creator" who frowns on gay sex, and therefore gay 'marriage by extension.
    Nature's God doesn't frown on gay sex. Otherwise there would not be hundreds of different species of animals that engage in it. See, the moment you step outside the Bible and have to account your arguments with reason, you are going to lose. You better stick to the noble lie that is the Biblical God.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Isn't that exactly what I just said?
    No, it's not.

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    Nature's God doesn't frown on gay sex. Otherwise there would not be hundreds of different species of animals that engage in it. See, the moment you step outside the Bible and have to account your arguments with reason, you are going to lose. You better stick to the noble lie that is the Biblical God.
    Ahh so gay 'marriage is about marrying animals?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ahh so gay 'marriage is about marrying animals?
    You are right. Gay marriage is about marrying animals. And indoctrinating children so as to recruit them to homosexuality. Oh, and destroying religious liberties.


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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You are right. Gay marriage is about marrying animals. And indoctrinating children so as to recruit them to homosexuality. Oh, and destroying religious liberties.

    Don't forget about spreading Socialism. They also do that.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You are right. Gay marriage is about marrying animals. And indoctrinating children so as to recruit them to homosexuality. Oh, and destroying religious liberties.

    One wonders why you brought up animals, then.

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