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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    Not just present tense, but past and future tense also.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Well, Jerry proposed an interesting bent on this. If the two people are caring for a child, I can see it being reasonable for them to have all the benefits of marriage. Beyond that, there is no information that shows that this relationship is as beneficial as any relationship that a straight or gay couple would have.
    There is government insurance and combined social security just to name a couple of benefits provided to married couples as well as the benefi you mentioned......

    And those people would be wrong... they are speaking from bias, not information
    I don't know what point they are speaking from but alot believe that gay marriage degrades straight marriage and degrades society .that is their opinion as it is yours........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There is government insurance and combined social security just to name a couple of benefits provided to married couples as well as the benefi you mentioned......
    And if children are involved I could see how it benefits society/the government. Outside of that, there is no evidence that it would or does.



    I don't know what point they are speaking from but alot believe that gay marriage degrades straight marriage and degrades society .that is their opinion as it is yours........
    This is where we part, NP. It may be their opinion, but they have no facts to base this on. I DO.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Really? Like what?
    How about selective service? Or that women are awarded custody of children at an overwhelming rate?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How about selective service? Or that women are awarded custody of children at an overwhelming rate?
    You call that discrimination? Not selective service, but awarding children to the mothers.

    The mothers tend to be more nurturing and men do not. It is natural law more than our laws.

    Either way, this is not allot.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Ok, the fire department.......There are jobs in the fire department that exclude women...........Laugh that one off........
    Because they don't have the upper body strength. It is also not discrimination because if they can pass the test, they are not barred.

    Try again?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    What is a true conservative? Please define without using Wikipedia.
    Most true "conservatives" want a smaller government. Today's "Conservatives" advocate for larger governmental involvement in many areas.
    The Goldwater "conservatives" did not advocate for big government to advance a social agenda. They were concerned with fiscal responsibility and smaller government. That is where today's "conservatives" differ completely.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Most true "conservatives" want a smaller government. Today's "Conservatives" advocate for larger governmental involvement in many areas.
    The Goldwater "conservatives" did not advocate for big government to advance a social agenda. They were concerned with fiscal responsibility and smaller government. That is where today's "conservatives" differ completely.
    That is not a "true" conservative. It is a different conservative. A "true" conservative would want no change at all in anything from government. That kind of conservative has never existed.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like I told you when all your political beliefs are far left, I don't care what you call yourself you are a left winger. You may not know it but you are........Now this thread is not about me so please try and stay on the primary topic.......thanks.........
    Oh please Navy...Blackdog is about as liberal as I am conservative. One thing that I do admire about Blackdog though is that unlike you....at least he supports his arguments with rational thought and not simply name calling.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Are you reading what I said?
    Are you?
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    The Constitution is not based on biblical truths. It is based on reason dating back farther than the bible. Even back to Babylon.
    Now explain how it is not "based on the bible" but IS based "based on reason dating back farther than the bible."


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