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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, he's not saying that. He's saying... as I am with lots of research and data to back me, that a two parent household, regardless of whether it is same-sex or opposite-sex is the best household to in which to rear a child, and that same sex couples do as well rearing children as opposite sex couples. I've been saying this for years, NP, I have lots of data to support it, and have witnessed it, too.
    And I am still saying a child has it best chance for success with 2 parents of the opposite sex......I believe its a no brainer...For example two men could never replace the nuchering (Not sure of the spelling) a mother can bring...No study can ever change my mind on that issue.........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    Really? Like what?
    women in the military in combat............

    women on submarines...........
    You want more?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And they will fail. Polygamy does not benefit those involved in a way that benefits society or the government. Gay marriage does. That's the difference.
    a lot of people will say gays don't either.......Regardless if gays use the EPC then Polygamysts can use the same clause...
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And they will fail. Polygamy does not benefit those involved in a way that benefits society or the government. Gay marriage does. That's the difference.
    I might add that is your opinion...There are a lot of people out there that might disagree with you...

    I will give you another example............you have 2 sisters living together who would love to have the benefits that marriage provides..........This is a non sexual relationship.............they both are straight........If gays can marry under the 14th amendment equal protection law why can't they?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    women in the military in combat............

    women on submarines...........
    You want more?
    That is not discrimination, it is the military.

    I am talking about in civilian life.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is not discrimination, it is the military.

    I am talking about in civilian life.
    Its discrimination against a woman in the military....what the **** is wrong with you?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And I am still saying a child has it best chance for success with 2 parents of the opposite sex......I believe its a no brainer...For example two men could never replace the nuchering (Not sure of the spelling) a mother can bring...No study can ever change my mind on that issue.........
    Then you are disagreeing with evidence, NP. Fact is that children in same-sex households DO have the same chances for success as those in opposite-sex households. I understand that when I debate this issue, there will be some who will not accept the facts of this issue no matter what is provided.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    a lot of people will say gays don't either.......Regardless if gays use the EPC then Polygamysts can use the same clause...
    People can say that, but they would be wrong. Evidence demonstrates that.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its discrimination against a woman in the military....what the **** is wrong with you?
    No it's not. I HAVE to go into combat because I am a male. It is equal across the board, so no discrimination.

    The military is different from anything else and has different rules.

    Now again I ask were in civilian life is this gender discrimination?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Then you are disagreeing with evidence, NP. Fact is that children in same-sex households DO have the same chances for success as those in opposite-sex households. I understand that when I debate this issue, there will be some who will not accept the facts of this issue no matter what is provided.
    CC your a reasonable man............don't you think a mother can bring something in a marriage that two fathers can't........I don't care what some survey says and I use the words common sense again........
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