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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can post all those biased studies if you want but it only makes common sense that a child with a father and mother make better parents then a child with two fathers.....A faher or mother have a role in raising a child that is missing when they have 2 same sex parents..........
    There is actually a whole thread dedicated to debunking this very topic.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...der-issue.html

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    There is actually a whole thread dedicated to debunking this very topic.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...der-issue.html
    Too bad it didn't debunk anything.

    Still relying on psychological profiles from questionnaires? Shabby, very shabby.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Too bad it didn't debunk anything.

    Still relying on psychological profiles from questionnaires? Shabby, very shabby.
    Actually, no. Much of the data was established from interviews and direct observation, not just questionnaires.

    Of course, it doesn't matter what information is provided. You will argue that the measurements are invalid, the samples are not random enough or are too small, or that there is not enough statistical analysis. And of course, you will do so without actually providing any reference to the actual studies in question, because likely you will never even read them. Then you will provide single parent family parent statistics and argue a methodologically unsound position based on those stats. I've gone through all of this, and I have no interest in going back there.

    The problem with your method though, and I have stated as much before, is that a growing body of empirical research over the course of 25 years supports the conclusion. If it were only a few studies, then you could make the argument, but as dozens and dozens of studies have come to the same conclusion, the evidence has mounted.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Then you should remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and why these two cities were destroyed.

    If man's laws were not based on what is written in the Bible, then how do you explain the laws against sodomy in every state in the union?
    In Lawrence v. Texas sodomy laws were declared unconstitutional.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    What kind of values do same-sex parents instill in little Johnny? Does he too grow up to be a homosexual like his 2 daddies? Do his 2 daddies push him into the gay lifestyle, steering him away from the natural order of things? Those are the questions you need to answer for me.
    That's easy. I have a multitude of studies that I have posted at DP many times that show that children who are reared by same-sex couples do just as well as those by opposite sex couples. Read that again... JUST AS WELL. There is no correlation between children of same sex couple being more likely to become gay. Your comments around this are completely uniformed and completely in error.

    So, now that it has been demonstrated that your perception is factually incorrect, what are you going to do?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Imagine how confused a kid would be growing up with two fathers or mothers........
    Not confused at all. Not only do studies demonstrate this, but I've worked with many. Zero problems around it. Sorry NP, but you are absolutely wrong about this.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can post all those biased studies if you want but it only makes common sense that a child with a father and mother make better parents then a child with two fathers.....A faher or mother have a role in raising a child that is missing when they have 2 same sex parents..........
    Your "common sense" doesn't stand up to substantiation. My facts trump your sense, so you lose on this.
    Last edited by CaptainCourtesy; 01-09-10 at 07:10 PM.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Too bad it didn't debunk anything.

    Still relying on psychological profiles from questionnaires? Shabby, very shabby.
    Too bad you are still wrong about this and still don't know the difference between research and assessment.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Aside from over a thousand federal rights they would be denied once DOMA is overturned?
    Domestic Partnership establishes every one of those rights which a state controls.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Domestic Partnership establishes every one of those rights which a state controls.
    This is my point... and I know it is yours too. Because of this, this issue is not about rights.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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