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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    All the time......why do you think Bush was so desperate to try to pack the court with right-wing activist Judges?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Sorry, never going to happen, honestly most of us believe gay marriage has very little to do with it..........the issue is forcing acceptance of the gay lifestyle down our throats..Making it the same as the straight lifestyle ......Gay marriage is just the first step in rying to accomplish that......
    Sorry...Navy. The gay "lifestyle" is the same as the straight "lifestyle" whether you accept it or not.
    No one is forcing anything down your throat. You are free to accept/respect another person's beliefs or not. That is your perogative. However, you should afford people the same option. Feeling that you are somehow entitled to more than anyone else and your unwillingness to afford others the right to their beliefs simply shows how shortsighted and intolerant you are.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Yes, they did . It was pretty close, but not as close as I thought it would be. They did overrule the politicians, that's true.
    And don't forget Maine is one of our most Liberal state........I would bet that if they ever gave the people of Mass. a vote they would overturn actvist judgess too.........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry...Navy. The gay "lifestyle" is the same as the straight "lifestyle" whether you accept it or not.
    No one is forcing anything down your throat. You are free to accept/respect another person's beliefs or not. That is your perogative. However, you should afford people the same option. Feeling that you are somehow entitled to more than anyone else and your unwillingness to afford others the right to their beliefs simply shows how shortsighted and intolerant you are.

    You lose again/still DD...You can't even win in your state the most liberal state in this country....give it up my left wing friend...............Gay marriage is a dead issue.........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    All the time......why do you think Bush was so desperate to try to pack the court with right-wing activist Judges?
    Packed? I hardly would say that

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This is such a stupid argument. Even in cases where it is legislated, such as Maine or DC, the traditional marriage folks still come around and seek to overturn it. The judicial activism argument is dead. The argument now is "let the people vote on civil rights."


    Frankly, same sex marriage is an inevitability in this country unless the traditional marriage folks can push through a federal amendment.
    Seems the states are doing a good job so far

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And don't forget Maine is one of our most Liberal state........I would bet that if they ever gave the people of Mass. a vote they would overturn actvist judgess too.........
    Maine is not one of our most liberal states. It's pretty split in representation, and Independents outnumber both Democrats and Republicans in party affiliations.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Packed? I hardly would say that
    When you get down to it the court is 4 libs 4 cons and 1 moderate who is the swing vote and DD knows that...........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't think any one group has exclusive rights to the word marriage.
    The word is not the issue, though. The concept is. The GM movement needs to remember this.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Maine is not one of our most liberal states. It's pretty split in representation, and Independents outnumber both Democrats and Republicans in party affiliations.
    I lived there stationed at Naval Station Brunswick Maine so don't try and tell me how liberal it is..........
    Last edited by Navy Pride; 01-07-10 at 10:49 PM.
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