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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Gods law are weaved into the fabric of this country and to say otherwise is ludicrous........
    Our government was set up on 18th century Enlightenment ideals and influenced heavily by Masonic thought as well. The Constitution is based upon the Bible inasmuch as Enlightenment and Masonic thought was influenced by it, but nothing more.

    The Founders knew better than to set up a theocracy or to give one particular sect preeminence over the others.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Relevant in that it is based on God's laws..........
    What?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not from a legal standpoint. The DOI has no legal authority in the US, currently. It was written as a pronouncement to Great Britain, claiming independence. This has been obtained, so as a legal document, it is no longer relevant.

    My point is the mention of God in the DOI...........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You need to take the time to read the thread......I have given my reasons for being against gay marriage many times and they have nothing to do with God..........
    Okay fine let's move on. Are not your opinions on gay marriage based on gender, yes or no?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    My point is the mention of God in the DOI...........
    So what? It mentions A GOD, not the Judeo-Christan God.

    Hmmm? You did read past the first paragraph I assume?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Actually no, because he had an original mother and father. It was still in the natural order of things. He knew his biological father. It would only work if one of his 2 daddies died, then he wouldn't be looked at so troubling. The school authorities would merely assume that his mother had passed away.
    Somebody adopted by a same sex couple may not know both their biological parents either.

    It doesn't matter which way you spin it, your example does not lead to any reasonable argument.
    It looks like you are searching for a reason to justify your position. You're not doing well.

    It works better the other way round: follow reason to arrive at a position.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Our government was set up on 18th century Enlightenment ideals and influenced heavily by Masonic thought as well. The Constitution is based upon the Bible inasmuch as Enlightenment and Masonic thought was influenced by it, but nothing more.

    The Founders knew better than to set up a theocracy or to give one particular sect preeminence over the others.
    We used to have and expression when I was growing up,,,"Love it or leave it."
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The Constitution is not based on biblical truths. It is based on reason dating back farther than the bible. Even back to Babylon.

    I am a Christian and you are taking it WAY out of context.
    Then you should remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and why these two cities were destroyed.

    If man's laws were not based on what is written in the Bible, then how do you explain the laws against sodomy in every state in the union?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So what? It mentions A GOD, not the Judeo-Christan God.

    Hmmm? You did read past the first paragraph I assume?
    You really don't think they are talking about the Judeo Christian God?

    I can tell you they are not talking about the radical islamic muslim God.....
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine let's move on. Are not your opinions on gay marriage based on gender, yes or no?
    It has more to do with the excretionary function of the anal passage, I seem to recall.
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