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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Still not a problem because it equates to the fact that his dad may have been killed in the war, thus causing him to grow up without a father.
    No it doesn't. It could be some random sperm from a sperm bank. Similar to if a female gay couple had a child, one which one of the women had been artificially inseminated. Absolutely no difference.

    If my point is ridiculous, then why do you bother coming here with a counter argument?
    To point out the ridiculousness of the argument. I consider it a public service for those who want accurate information.

    But you also did not address the issue that a school would NEVER do this. They would request a guardian. They would have on file who the guardian is. You are creating a non-real situation to fit an illogical agenda. THAT is my point.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    If so, why is the Constitution based on these Biblical truths?
    The Constitution is not based on biblical truths. It is based on reason dating back farther than the bible. Even back to Babylon.

    I am a Christian and you are taking it WAY out of context.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    If so, why is the Constitution based on these Biblical truths?
    Based on doesn't mean "follows to the letter" which is what you are insinuating. The bible is NOT the Constitution. That is why God's Law is NOT the law of the land.
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    Based on doesn't mean "follows to the letter" which is what you are insinuating. The bible is NOT the Constitution. That is why God's Law is NOT the law of the land.
    It goes much farther than that. Gods law is for our personal lives, not a government like Muslim law can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The problem is you think anyone who disagrees with you is a "left winger." I am a Moderate conservative. I tend to be a little more socially liberal because the Constitution protects the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

    Just from this thread here is the criteria you set for being conservative...

    We must treat all Arabs as terrorists, Muslim or not.
    Freedom of Religion is only for Christians, because we are a Christan nation.
    Gays are perverts because anal sex is disgusting.
    More government is OK for security against the brown skinned folk.

    This is like some caricature of white people from the 30's and 40's. Just replace Arab with Japanese.

    Seriously.
    I don't know what your point is but all your examples are garbage......I told CC that I would not call you a lefty anymore and I will keep that promise but you and I know what your political views are are.........

    That will be my last word on the subject.......Lts please talk about the great thing that happened in NJ........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No it doesn't. It could be some random sperm from a sperm bank. Similar to if a female gay couple had a child, one which one of the women had been artificially inseminated. Absolutely no difference.



    To point out the ridiculousness of the argument. I consider it a public service for those who want accurate information.

    But you also did not address the issue that a school would NEVER do this. They would request a guardian. They would have on file who the guardian is. You are creating a non-real situation to fit an illogical agenda. THAT is my point.
    Okay, let me go back to that point. Schools in my day would send letters home to the parent or "guardian". You are correct. I will concede to that, but notice it says parent or guardian, not guardians. I grew up after WW2, and as a result, there were many children without fathers. There was still no letter for "guardians." It said parent or guardian. Either the mother or a family member if both parents were deceased.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It goes much farther than that. Gods law is for our personal lives, not a government like Muslim law can be.
    I wonder if you have ever read the Declaration of Independence........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I wonder if you have ever read the Declaration of Independence........
    To bad the Constitution, is what gives us our laws and not the DOI.

    I suppose next you want to try and say the articles of confederation are somehow relevant???
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Okay, let me go back to that point. Schools in my day would send letters home to the parent or "guardian". You are correct. I will concede to that, but notice it says parent or guardian, not guardians. I grew up after WW2, and as a result, there were many children without fathers. There was still no letter for "guardians." It said parent or guardian. Either the mother or a family member if both parents were deceased.
    OK... so you're agreeing with me. I'm not sure if there is another point you are trying to make here.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Gods law are weaved into the fabric of this country and to say otherwise is ludicrous........
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