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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    I think I have the answer for all you gays that want to marry a person of the same sex.........Move to Canada....Gay marriage is legal there and that will never be the case here.......
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think I have the answer for all you gays that want to marry a person of the same sex.........Move to Canada....Gay marriage is legal there and that will never be the case here.......
    Well, that was where all the draft dodgers went, too.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Wrong again my argument is about not refining the definition of marriage...........
    Ah, so we are to the redefining the definition of marriage argument.

    Frankly, I find this argument to be incredibly weak because allowing same sex couples to marry does virtually nothing to the marriages of heterosexuals. In essence, it isn't much different than arguing that the definition of "voting" was changed when women were allowed to vote. After all, women were not traditionally allowed to vote. Imagine how the definition of "property" changed when it no longer extended to owning human beings. Slavery was long a tradition.

    It's pretty much one big appeal to tradition fallacy that you conservatives dreamed up.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Wrong again my argument is about not refining the definition of marriage...........

    1. and to me its just as disgustingregardless if the person is straight or gay...

    2. according to the 14th amendment the equal protection clause.......You can't just have it your way...If gay marriage was ever approved there are a bunch of polygamysts out in Utah right now ready to apply for marriage....
    As I told you, NP, the polygamy argument is a slippery slope. Polygamous releationships have been shown to NOT benefit society. Gay relationships have. Therefore, the government has no reason to sanction polygamous relationships, but does for gay relationships. Now, unless you have some evidence that polygamous relationships DO benefit society and the government, this particular argument is an irrelevant slippery slope that is illogical and does not apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    That should also include us conservatives being labeled as bigots since that has occurred more than once. Mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it has happened, none the less.
    I would agree with you, there.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    NP, no offense, but this thread isn't about others, either, so don't refer to folks as "left-wingers" if they do not want to be called that.
    OK CC but I will never understand why Liberals are ashamed at being addressed as such.........I don't call all that just the ones that claim to be moderate or independent and in every thread they spout left wing rhetoric.......For instant I try not ot call DD that because he is one and is proud of it.........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yes you can..........
    So I can marry a woman because of mine and hers gender, yes or no?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Here's the dilemma, bicycleman. Suppose little Johnny gets into trouble at school and gets expelled. The Principal sends a note home to his parents. Johnny is instructed that if he wants to get back to school, he must have both his mother and father come to school to explain why he should be readmitted to the school. That puts poor little Johnny in a quandary because his father died. Whatever will he do, now?

    Do you realize how absolutely ridiculous your example sounds? This is NOT how it occurs. A parent or guardian would be required to do this, not both. Your example is foolish and not part of reality.
    Actually no, because he had an original mother and father. It was still in the natural order of things. He knew his biological father. It would only work if one of his 2 daddies died, then he wouldn't be looked at so troubling. The school authorities would merely assume that his mother had passed away.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think I have the answer for all you gays that want to marry a person of the same sex.........Move to Canada....Gay marriage is legal there and that will never be the case here.......
    Same sex marriage is legal in five states here and recognized in nine.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So I can marry a woman because of mine and hers gender, yes or no?
    Your using a play on words. you know what the law is..........
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