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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post


    I think only a liberal would consider this SCOTUS and activist court.....The 9th circuit, yeah......
    No. The SCOTUS is not an "Activist" court...but there are people out there that are certainly trying to make it into one in order to advance a right-wing social agenda. That's for sure.

    They don't even try to hide the fact. They have been active in the last decade hoping to get enough activists on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade and then continue with their right-wing agenda.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I noticed some of the partisans skipped over this...

    They're so busy celebrating New Jersey as some kind of moral victory--they forgot about the little bi-partisan sleeper cell moving quietly through the Federal Court system.

    Equality is coming... But we can't depend on legislators or the voting majority to get it right. Legislators are too scared of their constituents to do the right thing, and the voting majority is just plain scared of something they don't fully understand...

    It's sex--we can't shake our Puritan roots; at least not publicly.

    Airport restrooms, okay.

    But in the voting booth when the church group (and God) is watching? No way, Jose.

    Got some news for y'all, God is watching. It's time to do the right thing.

    It occurred to me that some of the most profound artists, musicians, painters, writers were gay. If God chose them to speak to us, inspire us the way great art does... Then who are we to judge them to be less-than deserving of happiness?
    So you reposted a case in the future that has no outcome and laced it with hope for your point of view again as always without factual justification for your position and you expect us to reply to what? Your hope?
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Are gay relationships "equal" to heterosexual relationships? Isn't that the issue?
    I think when a gay couple can make a baby they will be equal........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think when a gay couple can make a baby they will be equal........
    Do you consider infertile heterosexual couples marriage inferior to those who have children?

    What about fertile couples that choose not to have children?

    BTW Navy....I know many gay couples who were able to make a baby and have children. Do you consider their marriages equal since they have children?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think the big deal is that NJ authorizes both marriages and civil unions.

    If NJ stuck to authorizing civil unions as you suggested they should, there wouldn't be an issue.
    Excellent point.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think when a gay couple can make a baby they will be equal........
    So donating sperm is the criteria that you base your opinion on, Navy?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    Orientation =/= behaviour. One can be a straight male and have sex with men, or be a gay male and have sex with women.
    I would believe that would be a bi-sexual...........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I would believe that would be a bi-sexual...........
    No. A Bisexual is someone who is physically attracted to both men and women.

    Having sex with someone does not make you gay or straight. A Gay person can have straight sex....a straight person can have gay sex....it doesn't change their orientation.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think when a gay couple can make a baby they will be equal........
    Well I think when you and your aged wife can make a baby, you will be equal, too.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    I guess McGreevy left a bad taste in the legislature's mouth, so to speak.....

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